Hello

I've been reading Napoleon Hill
he is telling us to go on, no matter how hard

that's the competitive plane (Carnegie..)

Wattles says to get rid of the thought of competition;

here is my question :

how do you get on the creative plane of thought
(by reading the book each day ?)

or do we first have to go through the competition, before we are where we have to be ?
(Bill Gates went first on the competitive plane, had to go through it and is now on the creative plane, doing charity, smiles)

so that could mean :
1. you have to go through the competition = Napoleon Hill and then you get in the creative tought = Wattles
2. Wattles himself went also through the competitive plane, but in the time he arrived on the creative plane, his body was no more in good health - (writes a book about being well ?)

Why am I asking this ?
Because I am doing experiments in both ways;
and they both work; only the way is different

Wallace's way is the easy relaxed way, no worry
Hill's methode can cause you serious damage lol

Also the amount of money you go for
and the time limit are of extreme important to your believe; it can change your feeling state if you want billions of dollars, or just a fair competition to have enough for the kids going to school, have money for you and your family and give some to charity..

I think this certain way is difficult, Wattles says it is an action book, follow these brain excercises to the letter, the ideas in this book, but that's hard work.

You know what, I keep talking, it is late in the evening, the music plays softly in the background. A friend is having a break, and I am questioning, sitting here, on my own.
Talking to persons I don't even know, from all over the world.
The answers are just letters on a screen, never a voice, never a real person.
It is all getting weard, very weard, it feels like a hidden world where no one knows the existence from;
this is the only place I can find answers for my questions, but each answer, is the seed for another question.
don't even know what my question was

good night
xx

quote:

Originally posted by Iqbal:
I am the greatest.

Well, let's see. You ARE great. Do you have to be the "greatest?" Greater than anyone else? Why?

I am the greatest.

Hi Iqbal,

I love that you've set Napoleon Hill up in competition with SOGR. Who wins? Does it matter? It's all about what you choose to focus on, what your clear mental image is.

Actually I agree with you entirely, why push and strain when we can create from the simple dance between our own heart's desire and the limitless abundance of the universe? There is no longer any reason to believe in and focus on creating from lack or limit. Soon your friends start saying .. how did you do that?

Hi Iqbal

you have some very good questions. I am not sure I can answer all of them, but I think your main question is getting to creative thought. from what I understand, it is all a state of mind, a place where you see things that allow you to feel good, and then take action from that place of feeling good, what Rebecca often refers to as inspired action.

the competitive mind Wally refers to is taking action for any other reason other than because you truly desire it.Or in other words, taking action when you are actually trying to avoid something you think will happen if you didn't do it. Competitive thinking is also thinking that there is a limited supply of what you really want, so you have to fight others to get it. And because you are using action to compensate your wrong thinking in the first place, it will always appear that you have to keep doing it just to keep from "losing" what you have.

So, to get to creative thought, let go of all your notions of competing for what you want, just go to a happy and joyful place in your mind and start thinking about what you really want. that's where creation begins.

Iqbal, everyone taking this course has made a commitment up front NOT to read or study other materials, authors, courses, etc. for the duration of this course or to bring other teachings into this course forum. And the reason is EXACTLY to avoid the kind of confusion you're experiencing.

Wally says clearly to "lay aside all others" until you MASTER this.

So let's do that.