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Originally posted by Katie Jane: I've never had another situation that I could not just 'take my mind in another more pleasant direction' to look for a better feeling.

Katie Jane,

I want to mention,...

I didn't mean to advocate you taking your mind OFF the subject that was troubling you. I meant to advocate getting yourself to an inner space of calm (thru Conscious Breathing, etc.) but then also 'filtering' the troubling subject through the 'lens' of the belief: There HAS To Be Something Good About This.

Simply: I think you were upset because you were focused negatively, as opposed to constructively.

I think you would not have been so upset if you were focused constructively. (Our focus determines how we feel.) What I advocate is following advice from what I consider some very good teachers that say this is a PRINCIPLE we can rely on. It's the idea, “Every adversity contains within it an equal or greater opportunity or potential for something good.”

Thus, no matter what the ordeal, if you're focused on discovering and utilizing the inherent though hidden GOOD, it has the effect of lessening your stress, because now you're focused on what you have to GAIN as opposed to focused on what you think you might be LOSING.

In other words, what I advocate in any troubling condition is (1) find some healthy way to get yourself to a calmer state and then (2) focus on what might be GOOD about the condition. Ask yourself, “What's good about this?” Or, “What MIGHT be good about this.” In other words (1) get yourself into some positive state and (2) get your mind focused positively or constructively. I.e., instead of being focused on what could or might be going wrong, look for what might or could be going RIGHT.

Let me ask you: Do you think you were upset because you were looking at what was or could be going badly?

I'm guessing that the stress you felt was fear-related. You were afraid of what you were or might be losing. Isn't that so? If it is, then you can see if you were focused on what you might or could be GAINING, you would have built up in yourself a completely opposite, uplifting internal experience. It's possible you could have been wondering, curious and even creating Positive Expectation (aka Faith) which is an internal 'good feeling' experience.

In any case, I think the relief you finally got came about as Rebecca said. You got new-to-you information from a trusted source that allowed you to have a better perspective or belief and feeling about the situation or condition. Do you agree?

Phil

Hi Phil....yes I was looking at what could be going badly, what might be lost, etc....and yes I got reassuring new to me information from a trusted source that allowed me to have a better perspective or belief and feeling about the situation. Totally agree.

So let me ask you this....since we all agree that we are constantly creating our experience, we also mostly agree that there are some 'outside variables' that we don't create but share with others....right (weather, worldwide economic situtations - although that one can be debated about how we are or are not creating it as we go along....-, suffering on the far side of the world, catastrauphic (sp?) events, tragedies, etc...)...? Well do you believe that when someone like (for instance) myself experiences something that triggers this downward spiral of negative thought and emotion, founded or not.....does this person (in this case me) create the exact thing that all of the deepest fears and anxiety are about? I mean the 'thing' hasn't happened....they are all just thoughts about oh my gosh, what if....and what if and THEN what IF?!!! (insert very worst possible scenario in place of each if...)....Is this how horrible things happen to us? Do we create the very thing we fear? I mean I've read that yes we do, no we don't we just control how we react and experience each event......I'd like your opinion. The reason I'm asking this....I've had family members who lived in constant dread and depression over 'how hard life is', illnesses, money woes, etc.....I've always instintively felt that these things were somewhat if not completely self created. Soooo last week while in the throws of this extreme anxiety I could hear a small voice telling me to settle down---you're creating your own hell.....and it was hell while I was 'there' I'll tell ya for sure. But I wonder.....is this how the 'negative side of the force' (Ima Star Wars fan....lol) works too..... I have in the past 10 yrs or so experienced the most wonderful things, accomplished things that I dreamed of, set out to accomplish, had things given to me that are unbelievable for no reason...but prior to this time I started thinking seriously about mentally creating this life.....and then magically it began to unfold.... I sort of feel like this 'thing' was a bit of a step back for me, a wake up call, a little bit of a test.....which I know is only a belief......oy.

Hi Katie Jane,
Yes, I think If you keep at it, the negative thoughts, the thing will happen.

I've talked about my father before, but he is the best visualizer and creator I know.
He was scared of getting cancer, put all his energy in it. Read about it, talked about people with cancer, couldn't sleep, petrified. And yes, he got cancer. He's better now and for some reason he doesn't care about cancer anymore, so he's healthy.

Now he has the economic crisis. When finally all things bad have happened that he immagined, I think he will think of something new and negative. Maybe he will go back to cancer.

The thing is, he feel's everybody should be in constant dread. Like it's morally bad to be happy. He always was like that. When we went on hollyday, he was like:"be sure to like this hollyday, because lots of kids never go, don't even have enough food to eat. And the economic crisis will come and you will never go on hollyday again."

I love my father, I really do. But...
I'm not listening to him anymore. I smile and say yes. But in my head I'm thinking of my CMI.
And B.L.A.S.T. him like nobody's business.

That's a long post for a short answer.
Yes, you can create "the thing" when you put enough energy in it. So why would you?

Hi Katie Jane, I know you're addressing Phil so I'll be brief. (I love these topics. )

I think physical manifestation is a mere vehicle to take us to the emotions we intend but can't get to by ourselves. But in the case of people with strong emotions, who can intend then fully experience right in their minds, this vehicle may be done away with?

I believe this is why people with narcissistic personality disorder or hypochondria rarely actually manifest what they're forever obsessing over.

Liesbeth and luv2luv thank you both for responding......both of your answers make excellent sense and Liesbeth I can so relate to a lot of what you say about your father. My parents were both extremely negative people. My mother died about 5 yrs. ago after having spent a life time 'being ill' from one thing or another. She was petrified of cancer and like you said about your father---she got it.

I really like your analogy luv2luv about being able to 'fully experience' the situation in our minds so the manifestation can be done away with......

My point in all of my ramblings about this subject has been to say that even though I am a true believer in how we create our own worlds and lives and such....there are certain times (at least for me) when something happens and I can't just 'stop' the negative storm of emotion b/c I'm aware of it. Perhaps I have built this event up in my mind (not the 'real situation but my emotional/physical reaction to it is what I'm calling the 'event') but it was as real as any roller coaster ride I've ever been on---it was very scary and I had a physical reaction to it with heart palpitations, etc....... I'm still trying to find the good as Phil suggests and another thing that I've come up with to add to my list of 'good things from this' is that perhaps my mind is much stronger than I had ever imagined.....we all know this already.....right? But having physical evidence like 'this event' has shown me......I am talking a LOT stronger. So yeah, that's a good thing. As long as I channel it properly----right?

Have you tried The Sedona Technique or The Sedona Method.

I use the process at www.sedona.com/

Others follow www.lesterlevenson.org/

It allows you to release those issues you are dwelling on quickly.

Let us know what else you find?

Patricia

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Originally posted by Fountainbleu:
Outside EFT and PSTEC, does anyone know any quick exercises for beginners like me when something comes and knocks away my happy/normal state of mind?

I'm aiming to have better equilibrium ALL the time, but just occasionally something happens that leaves me (as a first instinct anyway) to dwell on the issue, chase it in circles... kind of like the thing when you have toothache and keep poking it, not because you enjoy it but just to see if it hurts any less.

I know I do this with stuff that upsets me, and I wondered if anyone has any short sharp ways of changing my vibrational level (excuse the hippy term), when something knocks it off course.

Grateful in advance for any suggestions!

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Originally posted by Katie Jane:
My point in all of my ramblings about this subject has been to say that even though I am a true believer in how we create our own worlds and lives and such....there are certain times (at least for me) when something happens and I can't just 'stop' the negative storm of emotion b/c I'm aware of it. Perhaps I have built this event up in my mind (not the 'real situation but my emotional/physical reaction to it is what I'm calling the 'event') but it was as real as any roller coaster ride I've ever been on---it was very scary and I had a physical reaction to it with heart palpitations, etc....... I'm still trying to find the good as Phil suggests and another thing that I've come up with to add to my list of 'good things from this' is that perhaps my mind is much stronger than I had ever imagined.....we all know this already.....right? But having physical evidence like 'this event' has shown me......I am talking a LOT stronger. So yeah, that's a good thing. As long as I channel it properly----right?

I have considered my original post and truly understand now that my reactions were trying to do something useful for me, that their strength is to be admired and that I'm grateful for them.

If I view the reactive part of me as being a ship on the ocean, those reactions have shown me how very seaworthy and strong my vessel is even in the strongest riptides (and yours too by what you wrote!) and that my job isn't to "stop it" but to simply steer it into another direction when I choose to do so. The stuff I mentioned above, eg balance ball, posture, fun notes to myself, will easily give me a new "map" for the territory I prefer.

That realisation means I can dispense with the underlying feeling of guilt for not investing time in unwanted possibilities, for example by looking for more infomation about the stuff, seeking out more viewpoints to reinforce the unwanted CMI...

Amazing stuff - and Pat, thanks for the reply, I think I'm good now but I'll bear those links in mind. I agree as well with what you wrote, Luv2Luv - an elderly family member had a particular fear and she never manifested it because she lived with its realty in her own mind anyway, 24/7 for over 60 years!

It's my belief that it was ONLY because her beluiefs, like the examples you gave, were not "More life to all, less to none" that they were able to remain on the unmanifest level - this perhaps is why some spiritual teachers tell us that a negative thought isn't to be feared, because it's never as powerful as a positive one. Viewed in isolation that makes no sense - viewed from Wally's standpoint, of the entire universe seeking out more life, all the time, it makes PERFECT sense...

Aren't we humans AMAZING?!

Fountainbleu, that's a wonderful realisation.

I think becoming conscious is the key. When you're awake, better decision-making is automatic.

I'd say it's enough to waken the Jesus part of you that's asleep in the boat during your storm. And in the Bible, He was grumpy but truly unconcerned about the storm. No frantic efforts to immediately stop it.

Today's realisation has been that once I let go of judging my reactions as simply good or bad (by my own perceptions) I saw them for what they really were: a manifestation of my desire and ability to excel in my field.

That I was excelling in mining out depressing facts and statistics doesn't take away the skill and meticulousness with which I did it, or the ability to change those skills into something more productive.

"A house divided against itself cannot stand" - or something like that...

It's a work in progress!

I took note of what you said Fountainbleu, that a negative thought is never as powerful as a positive one and I've found it to be very true, in my experience anyway.