I have a question, these are actual quotes taken from the SOGR. I am understanding it to say that we shouldn’t write our goals down, and repeating our goals out loud because we don’t have to. God knows what we want and all we do is have faith that we are already receiving it. Any comments on this?
Verona

“You do not make this impression by repeating strings of words; you make it by holding the vision with unshakable PURPOSE to attain it, and with steadfast FAITH that you do attain it.” Chapter 8

“You do not need to apply your will to things in order to compel them toward you. That would simply be trying to coerce God and would be useless. “ Chapter 9

hisbiscus, wonderful q's. This is a subject I, up till now, have not pondered (moreso writing the goals with achievement dates - are we telling the universe when to have it done by?)

namaste
kevin:

Hi Verona,

The way I see it is if affirmations or goal setting are practices that help you focus more clearly, then by all means, use them.

On the other hand, if you're not "goal-oriented" nor in the habit of using daily affirmations, neither is really necessary. As WW teaches, all you need do is hold to your vision with unshakable purpose and steadfast faith.

I think the most important thing to remember is that is not necessary to apply your will to the process. You don't have to bargain with God, or try to be good enough, or work hard enough to attract the wealth you are seeking. You really don't have to DO anything. Even before you read the first page of SOGR you were already rich. You can't help but be. What Wally does throughout the text is get you to realize it and allow it to be.

If it doesn't quite make sense or seem possible yet, don't worry. As you continue to study the book, it will all become clearer.

Abundant blessings,

Kate

Amigo,
Exactly my thoughts...God will provide for us in his time, not ours.

Thank you both Amigo and Candlekate for your views on this. Kandlekate, I have read SOGR many times already, and listened to the CD's and have taken the course, but I just was wanting more clarity on this subject.

Verona

Everytime I read this part of SOGR I am reminded of these verses from the Bible: "But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him." MAT 6:7-8

To me, affirmations are a great tool but, in and of themselves, will not bring you what you want. If affirmations are made without faith, purpose, gratitude and personal action they are empty words that avail nothing.

I know many people who think affirmations are some kind of magic and if they just repeat them enough wealth will drop out of the sky on them.

I think it's true God (Universe) already knows what we want/need and when its best for us to have it (or something better) but only responds by the depth and steadfastness of our faith, gratitude and action toward what we desire.

Michael M.

Hi, Verona --

Sure, God already knows. The point of you getting crystal clear on your desires isn't so God will know; it's so YOU will know.

Truth is, most people don't really -- or more correctly, their desires are buried so deep they've lost touch with them.

What Mr. Wattles means here is that it's not any specific words that make magic for us. It's the MEANING we give to them. So there's no point in using someone else's affirmations or prayers or whatever unless they really strike a chord with you and you MEAN them.

And if traditional goal-setting works for you, then use it. If it just causes you to feel stressed or agitated or overwhelmed or frustrated or incompetent or like a failure, then don't. I use the term "targets" instead just because so many people have had less-than-stellar experiences with "goals." (And targets are FUN, whereas goal-setting sounds like work.)

And you don't have to beg God/Universe/Whatever Name You Choose to give you your desires. That would be ridiculous since everything you desire is already given and just waiting for you to claim it. But you know, that's EXACTLY what an awful lot of people do -- their prayers sound like begging or bargaining instead of just saying "Thank you! I accept!" with faith and gratitude.

Problem with that kind of thing (aside from the fact that it doesn't work) is that when someone is in that begging/bargaining mode, it's very clear that s/he is coming from an attitude of scarcity, lack, and very little faith. In other words, that person is holding a clear mental image of NOT getting what s/he desires.

Just food for thought ...

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Originally posted by amigo:
hisbiscus, wonderful q's. This is a subject I, up till now, have not pondered (moreso writing the goals with achievement dates - are we telling the universe when to have it done by?)

namaste
kevin:

Dates. Ah, the power of dates.

Did you know that, when writing a to-do list item with a time limit (start or end, whatever makes more sense) you become many, many more times likely to actually do it- though you might miss the date?

Let's take my goal of writing a brilliant novel "someday." Even though I've got less than ten pages ten years later, I'm still on track for my "someday" goal! It's no different from when my Mom would visualize a beautiful van- and her sister would get it. Apparently, she didn't remember to put herself in there!

Putting dates might not be for everybody, but I recommend that everybody experiment with it. You want it to be at the right time just like you want it to be the right continent, right planet, right person getting the bounty.

At least that's how I see it!

It's not the words, but the images, feelings, sounds smells and overall meaning they impart.

Similarly, you do not need to use will because that word means force. When you use will, you are saying, "And I want it to come by the sweat of my brow." "I want it to be hard work." Do you really want it to feel like hard work?

Whereas, when you are properly magnetizing what you want it might LOOK like you are working hard- sweat may well be dripping from your brow, but if asked, you will likely say, "Oh, that? It's nothing. Just really into what I'm doing."