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Originally posted by Jim888:
I think we should ask Rebecca that question.

I´d like to ask to all members:
Do you REALLY believe
that you are the creator of your life?

Hello folks,

Someone asked (I think it was Jim888) if I could see a positive outcome of my ebay experience? Actually I can.

You see I have received Poobah’s newsletter for quite sometime, and have owned Mr Wattles book for many years more. My ebay experience didn’t really affect me financially – it was more that I felt hurt. I am very sensitive and I’m sure that is one of the reasons I try to treat people right. I treat people how I want them to treat me.

It is perhaps a little juvenile but the experience led me to take part in these forums to see what other people’s views were. And that led to pay-back number 1: I got in contact with a group of absolutely fantastic people who are patient and caring. I feel really quite humbled to meet you all. If my arms could reach round the world I would hug you all!

Now several people made some quite general comments concerned attracting experiences that we think about – and as I thought these through I felt quite concerned. I do have a theory that we “all get what we deserve” which is something similar.

SOGR is a system for attracting success (and riches) but I have never looked at it as an explanation for why certain things happen in our lives. Do we really attract ALL of our experiences?

It is easy to be flip, but thinking it through:

- Did people who had to do military service (conscription) during the world wars really attract their fate?

- Did the 3,000+ souls that were so callously extinguished in the world trade centre attacks attract their fate? (ditto for any terrorise outrage)

- Does the child with cancer attract their fate?

These are deep questions – and SOGR would suggest that we should not even try to consider them. Are we prohibited from testing the theory? (I note from the preface that SOGR is of Hindu origin so perhaps there is someone out there that can comment on this?)

Whether I should consider these questions or not led me to the second positive pay-back: I got out my copy of SOGR and started reading it again.

I am again discovering just how powerful a system it is. I’m not sure if everything that arrives in our lives is attracted by us – it seems too easy to generate a contradiction here: what if another person impresses a contradictory idea on the formless to what you are impressing? (frivolous example: You want to paint the kitchen blue, your partner wants green)

Maybe as I read on answers will present themselves. Either way I’m sure you guys will have suggestions and for that I am very grateful.

By the way, does anyone know if there was any link up between Napoleon Hill and Wallace Wattles?

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By the way, does anyone know if there was any link up between Napoleon Hill and Wallace Wattles?

Funny where some answers pop up

Check out here if you want to know the answer to that question.

Casper,

It's interesting you should ask about Wattles and Hill.

Indeed, they are both very similar. Hill even talks like Wattles when he says "no one is ready for a thing until he believes he can acquire it", and he uses the example of his own son born without ears, and his firm resolution that his child should and would hear, regardless of what the doctors told him (p40).

I do agree however with the other post you cited, that Wattles is more concise, and offers more of a step by step approach.

I read Hill 10 years ago, but still couldn't get beyond appearances of my environments.

However, what I did like was his use of history such as the formation of US Steel, and figures like Carnegie, Morgan, Samuel Adams, etc, to illustrate his points, and he also used events like the Revolutionary War.

Some of the principles in Wattles book are also made by other authors like Vernon Howard, on his book about Psycho-Pictography.

I don't know whether Howard was a contemporary of Wattles (though I think I read somewhere he died in 1992, which would obviously make it not), but it would indeed be interesting if one of these people started the whole ball of wax rolling, which then the others picked up on, OR, whether they came about these principles independently as to how invisible matter or God behaves.

They all share some of the same foundational priniciples, but then seem to go about their own way in expanding on those principles.