I got this gift from the Success E-zine and I read most of it.

I feel like I have to have an university degree to understand what's Mr Lichtman trying to explain.

I get the IDEA but I don't get the techniques.
Did someone read that? Has someone already applyed the techniques?
I would very much appreciate if you can simpify them for me! Otherwise I have to delete the book because it is confusing me with its complicated chapters.
I prefer SOGR for it is simple and powerful. The only thing SOGR lacks is timing(which is far too complicated in HGLMAF)

You are completly right I felt like you needed to have a PHD to make sence out of the book. However I have used the basic achievement process a few times to achieve a sales goal of earning $10000 in the month of april( I just missed it I made $8500, and to get a job with a specified salary(If I had used it after I got the job I would have had more success). It worked for me both times in 30 days or less and thats why I am using it right now to stay focused on my goal. If you read that target statement 100x'S it should attract what you are seaking as long as the target is formulated as he tells you to in the book. I am looking for someone to help me understand the Supper Achievement process. But if you can understand the Basic process it will work for you with 1-2 hours a day spent reading and writing your target.I hope this helps!

P.S. Don't delete the book it has some useful info. We mabe need to put out heads together to make it work.

I felt lost while I was reading it!

I have the book too, but I don't understand it either. Please let me know when you figure it out. I have been saving it also.

I think you have the right idea Creator. I have read the book - what it can be used for is as a goal maker - it resolves confusions in your brain - and while you are using it, I would recommend the automatic writing that he suggests you do - it brings out all the frustrations and anger that is deep inside - so that the last stumbling blocks to our feeling positive have been removed.

Ritu

Hi Karamazov,

I'm amazed you've got this book as a gift. I would appriciate if you will evetnually send me a copy of it per e-mail too?
I also wanted to read it, but I wasn't able to pay for it. As I don't have this book, (I'm just a receiver of Mr. Lichtmans Newsletter), I can't comment how difficult is to follow him. I don't doubt his book and the lessons inside are powerful enough if you apply the techniques correctly.
Since I know of SOGR, I've taken some action and also read a few more books about the same theme and I've come to the conclusion that all modern Autors seem to teech us the same as Mr. Wallce does. It is just a bit different, but the main approach is the same:

• Target your goals
  
• Visualise them
  
• Believe in getting what you want
  
• Take some action about it
  
• Get a feeiling this already belongs to you
  
• Be thankful in your heart in mind about getting it
  

Isn't this the same Mr. Wallace teaches us?

But in my oppinion, we should not discuss about other books here, I think discussions about other books and approaches may only confuse us if we really want to stuck with Mr. Wallace.

Best regards,

malletzky

this book under discussion seems interesting, can i get a copy too, if you don't mind?

You can listen to my interview with Stuart or just read the highlights from that interview in an old Certain Way edition. It's just a chat between me and Stuart about how his work fits with our friend Wally's. Just click the link below:

Interview with Stuart

Also, I'd like to see us NOT get into competitive mind stuff about which is "better." The two books are simply different and one will appeal more to some people while the other is just right for others. And some will love both, of course.

Hello Karamazov and All,
I have been wanting to have this book so much that whenever it was offered as a prize by Rebecca I entered the contest and actually prayed that I should win it. This is because I can't afford to buy it.

I have read Lichtman's lessons and find that they are useful. Now that so many people are asking to send you the book, may I add my name to the queue?

I also wanted to hear about what others who have this book have to say about it and this thread has brought on the discussion which was an answer to my wish. Creator's post about the results that were achieved is an illustration of its usefulness. But Rebecca is right when she says that we should not compare SOGR and this book as this is getting us into competitive spirit.

On the other hand when Rebecca has been writing about this book, its contents couldn't be in conflict with SOGR. Maybe same or similar thing in a new format.

Fortunate

Karamazov and all --

If you have a copy of Stuart's ebook (and actually, it's a whole set of ebooks), please read the copyright information before sending copies of it to anyone. Generally, ebooks are licensed to you for your personal use only. If there is no information there specifically authorizing you to share it with others either by selling or giving it away, then it is illegal to do that. It would be, in fact, stealing -- and that sure isn't in line with SOGR.

If you are unsure, then always ASK the copyright owner (not just the person who gave or sold it to you as they may be in violation themselves).

BTW, my copies of Stuart's books all bear copyright notices so they are not mine to give or sell. I would expect the same to be true of yours.

Hi Karamazov,

If there aren't any restrictions involved and you can forward the book, may I have a copy as well. I have taken the lessons that he offered but could not afford the book.

I too prefer SOGR. I find SOGR pretty natural, it does not really put you out or make the process a hassle.

Blessings,
Richone

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Originally posted by Richone:
Hi Karamazov,

If there aren't any restrictions involved and you can forward the book, may I have a copy as well. I have taken the lessons that he offered but could not afford the book.

I too prefer SOGR. I find SOGR pretty natural, it does not really put you out or make the process a hassle.

Blessings,
Richone

Imagine you ALREADY have it, and be thankful. Don't use words like "I can't afford it".

Cheers,

Hugo

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Originally posted by Hugo:
Imagine you ALREADY have it, and be thankful. Don't use words like "I can't afford it".

Cheers,

Hugo

Hello Hugo,
Your post put me too on the right track.

I also wrote that I can't afford it so somebody send the book in this topic.

It was my mistake. Now I have the book coming to me - when and from where? I leave that to the Supreme Being. But it will come somehow.

Thanks for inspiring me.
Fortunate

I don't understand why his ebook is so expensive ($79), if it is that great, why isn't it just being sold in book stores, amazon, etc? His interview sounded like a falling asleep monotone, which I could barely make out.

hey Guys

I never got around to the end of the book, just used the info. and had the result. Try it out and THEN disguss amongst each other ;o)

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Originally posted by Mentalius:
hey Guys

I never got around to the end of the book, just used the info. and had the result. Try it out and THEN disguss amongst each other ;o)

what result did you have, if you don't mind?

Regarding Lichtman's Book:

There is genius is his ideas. There are flaws in his presentation. His approach is practical and the notions for why we fail is right on the money. His writing is haphazard and full of errors which I find terribly distracting. His book brings me closer to answers to questions like: When I am so good and so smart, why am I living paycheck-to-paycheck, feeling frustrated, and blaming my boss?

Finally, he is directly practical, yet I have questions in the ethereal, and that is where Wattles strikes me, and that is why I am here.

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Originally posted by M.A. Frederickson:
Regarding Lichtman's Book:

There is genius is his ideas. There are flaws in his presentation. His approach is practical and the notions for why we fail is right on the money. His writing is haphazard and full of errors which I find terribly distracting. His book brings me closer to answers to questions like: When I am so good and so smart, why am I living paycheck-to-paycheck, feeling frustrated, and blaming my boss?

Finally, he is directly practical, yet I have questions in the ethereal, and that is where Wattles strikes me, and that is why I am here.

and did you practice Lichtmans book and what results did you get, if any? I actually didn't get a response to my post about the book costing $79, because the think about ebooks is that I have to print it out to read it so that is an extra expense. like SOGR ebook, and so I was happy that a man named Paul McManus sent SOGR to me for free as a hard copy, when he sent me two prosperity prayer cds for $20. that was a very good investment, I am listening to them right now as a matter of fact.

so I finally emailed Mr. Lichtman himself and he wrote back with some info about how long the book and bonuses are, and how to take it to Kinko's to have it printed, etc. so I am still considering it. but if it is poorly written...

AnneS,

Believe it or not, I did experience results. They seemed to be proportional to my commitment, my focus, and my diligence. That strikes me as typical of nearly any kind of process I embark upon. Notice that Wattles makes paramount a clear mental vision, focus on his program, and spending enough time thinking about it so there is little else on your mind.

What I find relevant in Lichtman's work is the concept of the unconscious where the limitors and blockers are. In the SOGR I see clearly how many blockers I have regarding my own financial prospects.

Wattles discusses the nature of reality in terms much more appropriate to my way of thinking. Lichtman talks like an engineer. Chopra talks like a doctor scientist. Maltz talks like a psychologist. Thoreau talks like a poet-philosopher. Right now I need to understand my relationship to money, and I am obsessed with the nature of reality. I have no place I want to be than here in the community of those listening to Rebecca and Wallace.