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Originally posted by Rebecca:

Your dad is just a MIRROR for you. Can you see that? Really. Think about it. Can you see it?

Does this mean that when I look into Dad, I see bits of myself? I'm not too fond of that idea because Dad stands for everything that I am against. (Mostly eveything) I don't yet understand what this 'mirror' means but I am open to understanding.

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Start here: Everything ANYONE does -- including you, including me, including "them" -- is either an expression of love or a CALL for love. No exceptions. Does that help you see any of this differently? To see what your dad does in a new light? To see YOUR reaction to what your dad does in a new way?

I feel sorry for Dad. Many times I have held out a hand or a hug or my heart and many times they have been shrugged aside by him. This is why I keep away. I feel that he is happy being the angry person that he is so I just let him be.

I can feel sorry for him, but when we speak again, we will probably play out the usual scenario of me trying to offer kindness and him shrugging it off. Directly after, when I get off the phone, I will feel frustrated for a while at not being able to help, but then I will just feel sorry for him again.

Round and round we go. Thats why I don't ride that merry-go-round as much as I used to. I keep away to feel good about who I am.

Thank you Rebecca, I'm learning, slowly but surely.

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Does this mean that when I look into Dad, I see bits of myself? I'm not too fond of that idea because Dad stands for everything that I am against. (Mostly eveything) I don't yet understand what this 'mirror' means but I am open to understanding.

Hi Kelly,

The way I see it, it doesn't matter what your dad stands for, that's just a surface he's developed.

I think what Rebecca is getting at is that what you percieve in your dad are the things you reject in yourself and therefore it's about:
1. Accepting that those aspects ARE in you, otherwise it wouldn't register in you;
2. finding forgiveness for yourself, as what you perceive is not the Truth, just an appearance, and
3. Allow yourself to feel the feelings that come up but be an observer of them so that you are not comsumed by them and thus allow the healing to take place.

I know with my mum it sometimes feels like she's a machine gun relentlessly firing bullets at me, but I find that when I practice being the observer and understand that it's a call for love (so I don't react to her), she settles and I remain feeling good.

I remembered today a Jerry Lewis movie I saw as a child (I think it's called "The disorderly orderly"), where Jerry had violent reactions to the ills of his patients but at the end of the movie he's going around to the people who would complain the most about their diseases and he asked them to hit him with everything they had and he was fine, in fact he was happy.

What I realised just today is that he found freedom, where he no longer reacted to the appearances around him and I thought, that's what I want with my mum, where no matter what she says or does, there is nothing to react against, complete non resistance. And that feels fantastic.

It may not happen overnight, but with awareness and practice, freedom comes.

Geez, What a thread. I have been thinking lately that when I see flaws in someone else it is because those flaws are hiding in my own character. Getting bigger is the answer. Get bigger than the flaws I see in other people that are really my own flaws. Flaws isn't the appropriate word as these are 'things' that help us to see what needs to be done to put self in alignment with reality. So flaws isn't the word. Perhaps 'indicators'. I read a book called 'The Courage to Heal' and a question came up in the book in relation to having mom's permission to succeed. I thought I knew my mom would give her permission surely so I asked. "Mom, do I have your permission to get rich?". Her answer was upsetting to me for a while. She said, "You have my permission to be as much like me as you want to be". What the heck? Does that mean , , , well she has passed away. Been about 4 or 5 years now and I know this woman made a lot of people happy in her life. And I have strengths I would not have developed if not for the (excuse the word) abuse sustained as a child. At 55 I am finally beginning to grow up and that is wonderful. I am not 80. And when I am 80 I will shine and sparkle like no other diamond on the face of the planet. And I have also noticed that lately I have not had to fight my own battles. Whenever someone does something mean to me they crash and burn without me retaliating so I am inclined to make myself just as sweet and nice to everyone else around me so that LOA has even more reason to shine on me. Love is such a strong word. We are responsible for our own "feel good". I absolutely love my Geo Metro and at the same time I love my (future) H1. Most of all my present gratitude goes out to you. You who are reading me now. This forum is amazing at putting us all back on course. The church I used to call home had a saying. I'll lift thee. Thee lift me and together we'll ascend. Thank you for all of these words you have written. All of you.

Dealing With 'Problem' Parents

Here’s an approach that might help you ‘get clear’ (be ok, at peace with, still feel loving, even be amused with) your parents behaviors.

Temporarily, in your mind,.. switch roles with your parents. Imagine YOU are their parent, and they are your children.

Then, examine your feelings and reactions to their behaviors, and ask yourself what kind of PARENT are you being to them? How, as a parent, are you seeing their behavior (if they were your children)? Are you being judgmental of their behavior? Are you worried about their behavior? Are you feeling concerned about the consequences of their behavior?

If you are still feeling upset with their behavior, ask yourself why. Why are you upset with their behavior?

Are you being afraid for them? Are you worried about the consequences of their behavior? Are you being constructive?

And, if – by switching roles with your parents – you find any sense of greater peace, can you bring this back to your ‘real’ relationship with them? (This brings up the question: What’s the real relationship? I’ve read how some people believe we constantly change our relationships with people, as we reincarnate into different lives.)

Just a suggestion.

Phil

p.s. Too bad we can't give our parents a 'time out' or send them to their rooms. "Dad, I want you to go to your room and think about your behavior." "No! No! No! Kelly, I won't do it, and you can't make me! Naa, naa, naaa, na, naaa, naaaaaa!!!"

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Can you please shed some light with a suggestion as to how I could 'see' my Dad from a different perspective?

Hi Kelly,

This is just one guy’s opinions on this matter. I think I might be able to help or shed some light on what’s going on between you and your dad. BUT,… I sure the heck could be completely wrong. So, with that in mind,…

Here’s my perspective on your dad’s (or anyone’s) behavior towards you.

Your dad behaves the way he does towards you because that is how you FORCE him to behave towards you. Let me explain.

You say you call your dad every so often. Right? Well, before you call, you have an idea of him, an image of him being intimidating and manipulative. Even though you love your dad, and even though you’d love to have some ‘quality time’ with him, you fear him and ‘know him’ to be an intimidating and manipulative person. Right?

So, when you call him, even though you would LIKE to have a wonderful, loving, kind exchange with him, you just end up getting what you really BELIEVE you’ll get, or EXPECT to get from him –the ‘intimidating and manipulative’ person.

But – and here’s where you might get an ‘aha’ about this – the way you ‘see’ him is NOT who he is to EVERYONE. For example, let’s say he met someone you know he absolutely admires and respects. Do you think he would behave intimidatingly and manipulative towards such a person?

If your dad (or anyone else) would behave differently towards some other person than how they behave towards you, then, isn’t it YOU who is causing him to behave as he does towards you?

Now, I don’t know your dad’s likes and dislikes, or who he might admire. But everyone looks up to somebody, or admires different persons for different reasons. And, should they meet these persons, they tend to ‘put their best foot forward’ or behave differently towards them than they do towards the people they might usually interact with (like you).

But, if they would behave at all differently towards some other person, it MEANS they are NOT one set of behaviors. In other words, your dad is not an intimidating and manipulative person, per se. He may even be this way with MOST people, but he is not always this way with EVERYONE. Therefore, he is NOT an intimidating and manipulative person. He merely behaves this way with most people, because his experience has taught him that this kind of behavior ‘works’ for him, in most of his relationships.

Here’s something you might want to try.

Do you want your dad to behave differently towards you? Do you want him to be more respectful and kind? Then, do not accept anything less. If he tries to behave intimidatingly or manipulative, simply stop him. Tell him something like, “Dad, don’t go there, or I’ll end this call.” And then, if he doesn’t stop, say, “OK, dad. I gotta go. Love you. Bye.”

In other words, people – your dad, your co-workers, friends, acquaintances or strangers – generally treat us like we ‘set them up’ to treat us. (I think this is how others ‘mirror’ us. They mirror our expectations.)

If you want your dad (or anyone) to treat you better, you can. Just make up your mind, use your imagination and creative thinking, create a vivid image and focus in on the part of you that knows how to be resolute, calm, poised, discerning, self assured, gracious and wise, and just BE a different person.

Here are some quotes that may be helpful to you.

“All of our relationships are a mirror of our own relationship with ourselves; thus spirituality becomes the source of loving one another as God loves us.”
Father Tom Allender S.J. - Jesuit Priest
Don Fisher, Director of Life’s Journey

“You must learn to get in touch with the innermost essence of your being. This true essence is beyond the ego. It is fearless; it is free; it is immune to criticism; it does not fear any challenge. It is beneath no one, superior to no one, and full of magic, mystery, and enchantment.
Access to your true essence will also give you insight into the mirror of relationship, because all relationship is a reflection of your relationship with yourself.”
from The Seven Spiritual Laws of Success by Deepak Chopra

“When we see men of worth, we should think of equaling them; when we see men of a contrary character, we should turn inward and examine ourselves.” - Confucius

"Any situation that you find yourself in is an outward reflection of your inner state of beingness." -- El Morya

“Life helps us out. Unconsciously, each of us projects our unconscious attributes, fears and wounding onto other people and things. This lets us see our own invisible, repressed programs so we can take ownership of them. For example, if we get upset because someone has deceived us, we can ask how we are deceiving ourselves [or how we are deceiving others].

What typically upsets you? Ask yourself how what is happening externally mirrors what is going on within you. Resolve your inner situation and the outer manifestations will no longer bother you.” -- Author Unknown, from The Inner Journey - higherawareness.com

"Everything we are afraid of is personified somehow. Yet it belongs to us. Everything we see on the outside of the body/mind confirms an inside reality." -- Paul Ferrini

“You are your own best friend. Treat yourself as if you are your main supporter, your biggest fan, because you are. Be good to yourself and you will influence others to treat you the same way.” - Mark Victor Hansen

"Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves." -- Carl Jung

“We create our own heaven or hell. Your thoughts can imprison you or set you free. Complications, conditions or people do not upset you, but the way you think about them causes your upset. Freedom is not possible until we discipline and retrain our minds.” - p. 124 of Choose To Live Peacefully by Susan Smith Jones, Ph.D.

“If you say, “I just can’t help the way I feel,” you will only make yourself a victim of your misery ~ and you’ll be fooling yourself, because you can change the way you feel.
If you want to feel better, you must realize that your thoughts and attitudes--not external events--create your feelings. You can learn to change the way your think, feel, and behave in the here-and-now.” - from The Feeling Good Handbook by Dr. David Burns

“When you feel frustrated or upset by a person or a situation, remember that you are not reacting to the person or the situation, but to your feelings [beliefs] about the person or the situation.” - from The Seven Spiritual Laws of Success by Deepak Chopra

Change how you think and what you believe about yourself and others, and your whole life experience will change.

Phil

Dearest Angelo, Phil, Pete and Rebecca,

I woke up this morning to all of your wonderful ideas and suggestions. Thank you soooo much!

I went out to do my day and thought about your words ALL day. I've been trying to wrap my head around this 'mirror' thing.

Whilst driving home it hit me. A-Ha! Dad taught me what humiliation, intimidation and fear feels like. Thanks to him, I learned how to look these things straight in the face and rise above them.

What kind of parent am I being to Dad? Well. Phil, since you gave me the opportunity to look at him from that perspective, I think I'm being too hard on him as a 'parent'. He is rebelling against all of my positive input. That is his choice.

"Are you being afraid for them? Are you worried about the consequences of their behavior?" -

Most definately Phil, but since Dad won't take any help, I guess this is something that he must work out for himself. It is HIS life, not mine. I'm working on mine as I am here with you wonderful people.

"Flaws isn't the appropriate word as these are 'things' that help us to see what needs to be done to put self in alignment with reality. So flaws isn't the word. Perhaps 'indicators'."

Yes Pete, many years ago I noticed these indicators and learned how to rise above them. I guess you could say that I'm changing the reflection of the mirror.

"3. Allow yourself to feel the feelings that come up but be an observer of them so that you are not comsumed by them and thus allow the healing to take place."

Angelo, reading that was like a WOW moment for me. Up until now I was totally consumed with how Dad felt and why he treats people as he does. I like the idea of standing back and observing. This, I will do. I will feel safer here.

Rebecca, since dad is just a mirror for me, I'm allowed to change the reflection aren't I?

Thank you all so much. This is a work in progress in my mind and in my actions. I'm not quite ready to visit him yet, but when I do, I will be armed with this powerful knowledge that will help keep my vibration levels where they should be - in harmony with all. (including Dad)

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Originally posted by Phil:


Do you want your dad to behave differently towards you? Do you want him to be more respectful and kind? Then, do not accept anything less. If he tries to behave intimidatingly or manipulative, simply stop him. Tell him something like, “Dad, don’t go there, or I’ll end this call.” And then, if he doesn’t stop, say, “OK, dad. I gotta go. Love you. Bye.”

I have done this a few times before. It felt great because I just 'let it all go'. I must continue to do this again. Thanks for the reminder.

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(I think this is how others ‘mirror’ us. They mirror our expectations.)

A-Ha! This explains the mirror in a way that I understand. Thank you.

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Access to your true essence will also give you insight into the mirror of relationship, because all relationship is a reflection of your relationship with yourself.”

Ouch! That was a wake up call and a half. So in other words, I subconsciously manipulate and intimidate myself? Is this right? I've got to cut that out quick smart.

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For example, if we get upset because someone has deceived us, we can ask how we are deceiving ourselves [or how we are deceiving others].

There it is again. Oh no, I hope I'm not subconsciously manipulating and intimidating others. I need to fix this NOW!

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“When you feel frustrated or upset by a person or a situation, remember that you are not reacting to the person or the situation, but to your feelings [beliefs] about the person or the situation.”

This is where I will learn to become an observer as Angelo suggested.

Thank you again Phil. Your chosen quotes are, for lack of a better phrase, right on the money. I will read them often. I feel like I'm on a mission now. Change me, Change my world!
Sending love and hugs your way.

Hi again Kelly,

When I asked:

"Are you being afraid for them? Are you worried about the consequences of their behavior?" -

You replied: “Most definately Phil, but since Dad won't take any help, I guess this is something that he must work out for himself. It is HIS life, not mine. I'm working on mine as I am here with you wonderful people.”

I didn’t mean to imply that I think it is GOOD to be afraid for our children (or parent, or anyone else for that matter), or worried about the consequences of their behavior.

To the contrary, I believe it is actually DETRIMENTAL to be afraid or worried about others. I believe one of the best things we can do for others is hold a vision of them as being capable, worthy, wise, etc., etc. (Now, of course, I don’t mean if you see a child about to run in the street and there’s a car coming, you shouldn’t stop the child. I’m talking about the image or vision you hold of the person.)

It seems to me you are holding a vision of your dad as being manipulative and intimidating and needing your help, and thus, you perpetuate the unwanted behaviors.

Like Abraham-Hicks say, it’s the Law of Attraction, where ‘Yes mean yes,’ but also, ‘No means yes.’ In other words, whatever you put your attention on, you perpetuate or amplify or cause to be more of. So, if you are wanting or trying to ‘fix’ your dad, your attention is on ‘something is wrong with him’ and so you perpetuate what you don’t want.

Imagine your dad (or others) are terrific persons, even though you may not usually see this, and then, whenever they ‘show’ this side of their selves (and everyone has this side) acknowledge it, or praise it and reinforce it.

“Haven’t you ever known someone who just expected good things to happen for you? You want to talk to them about everything because they’re going to put it in the best light possible. It’s almost like they have a magic.” Abraham-Hicks

But then, maybe I should mention,.. It will probably be difficult or impossible for you to notice and sincerely appreciate the good in your dad (or others) if you are holding anything against them. If this is the case then, you need to really heal yourself first. You need to find a way to rise above any grudges or resentments, or whatever thought there is in you that makes someone seems to owe you something.

Phil

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Originally posted by Phil:

But then, maybe I should mention,.. It will probably be difficult or impossible for you to notice and sincerely appreciate the good in your dad (or others) if you are holding anything against them.

Hmmmmmm. I am sitting here searching for something GOOD that I can see in my dad. I KNOW there is something. I know everyone has good in them. I've just never really looked for the good in my own father. Sometimes, before, he used to do something silly and we'd laugh so much until tears came out of our eyes. I liked that. That was a long time ago. If I just focus on that, will the LOA work 'good' for me by referring to this one good thought about dad. It's more of a memory really. I'm still thinking.

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If this is the case then, you need to really heal yourself first. You need to find a way to rise above any grudges or resentments, or whatever thought there is in you that makes someone seems to owe you something.

That sounds great. Where do I start? How do I rise above resentments? How do I really heal myself first? How How How?

I feel like I'm TAKING too much from you Phil, and not giving enough back. I truly am thankful for this conversation with you. I am sincerely grateful for your help because with this help from you and others in this network, I want you all to know that you are helping to set me free. For that, I am eternally grateful.

I can see it now. Me; walking on the planet in THIS lifetime, fearless and complete, radiating love and understanding, fulfilled - thanks to you all.

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(I think this is how others ‘mirror’ us. They mirror our expectations.)

Or said another way...we teach people how to treat us.

Michael

hi there,
now this is an inspriring story!
thanks.
I made the decision right away to be happy today,and guess what...now the sun starts shining!
morningstar

Hi Phil,

Thanks for the sharing your experiences.

I really needed to read this and I will read it again.

Things have taken an unwanted turn for me and I want to change it all.

What you wrote is making feel better.

Jim

Hi Phil

What a wonderful story. I am inspired. I have a little piece of wisdom that fits right in with your lady who doesn't treat you well. Someone once told me:

Karma is a gift - you can accept it with thanks, or more importantly, you can choose not to accept it - with thanks.

I always remember this and it has helped me out in countless situations.

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Originally posted by Jim888:I really needed to read this and I will read it again.

Things have taken an unwanted turn for me and I want to change it all.Jim

Jim,

Since you’re going thru a difficult time, let me share another story. Maybe it will help.

Years ago, before I’d ever heard of SOGR (or Abraham-Hicks, Dr. Joseph Murphy or Neville Goddard) I was a full time freelance musician. I still recall clearly a difficult time I went through, and how I resolved it. Now, with what I understand, I did exactly what all the above recommend. I got myself into a good feeling place and the difficulty was ‘miraculously’ solved. Here’s the details.

I had just done a couple months of ‘road work’ playing and when I got back in town I had to reconstruct all my ‘in town’ connections. Now, I knew this was how it was, but I had failed to plan for it, and when I got back in town and went thru calling all my connections there was not a gig to be had anywhere.

After a few weeks of no work, and making all the calls and making all the rounds, I was faced with the fact that I had absolutely no work. This had never happened to me before. It was a brand new kind of experience, and I got pretty freaked out.

But, I had also been sporadically studying, reading self help books, and one that I remember ‘clinging to’ at the time was ‘Treasury of Courage and Confidence’ by Norman Vincent Peale. It was a compilation of inspiring stories, and from it I decided that there was nothing left for me to do but pray my way into a state of inner peace. (I literally LOVED that book, as if it saved my life.)

I remember distinctly the night when I realized I had absolutely no work and no leads. Now, I’m not going to justify my thinking at the time. I was just doing the best I could. (Like I said, I hadn’t even heard of the writers/teachers I mentioned earlier.) Taking direction from Peale’s book, I got myself as quiet and calm as I could and silently talked to God.

(Note: I didn’t feel like I ‘knew’ God at all, but I was trying to shake off the feelings of desperation I was going thru, any way I could.)

I said, something to the effect, “God, I’ve looked everywhere and can’t find any work. Maybe this means I’m not supposed to do music work any more. I’m just saying I’m ok with that and open to whatever YOU want me to do.” The ‘bottom line’ of my praying was me just trying to come to experience some peace, instead of the turmoil I had been going thru for the last few weeks. So, here’s what then happened.

I managed to really get myself to a place of inner peace and calm. I remember feeling resolute and willing to do whatever, to start making some money again. This was about 11 at night, or so. I went to bed fairly exhausted.

Just a little before 3 in the morning, the phone rings and I wake up groggy to answer it. It’s an old drummer friend of mine who I hadn’t heard from in almost two years. I said, “Hello?” and recognized his voice as soon as he said, “Phil.” We spoke for awhile, happily catching up on what each other had been doing, and then he asked, “Do you want to go to Japan?”

As it turned out, he had hooked up with some musicians who had managed to get a few months of work in Japan with a show band, and they needed a keyboard player, and although we hadn’t been in contact, he thought he’d give me a call, just in case I might be interested.

I was, and I took the gig, and it turned out to be one of the best gigs of my music career up to that point.

But let me reframe that experience from what I believe I now understand.

It really is all a matter of feeling good.

I believe that, when I got off the road, if instead of getting a little frantic and going ‘into action’ to try and parlay my next gig, I had purposefully calmed myself and got myself into some good feeling, and did my best to maintain some good inner state, I would have had some kind of good resolution much more quickly.

I believe I was repelling any good that I might have connected with, so long as I was building my ‘inner state of turmoil’ by worrying and fretting and getting anxious, etc.

So, in a nutshell, this is my advise to you. Get yourself into some kind of good feeling, and keep doing that. Being at peace or feeling good, you get a whole different set of ideas and hunches of what to do than when you're upset.

Dispel any unpleasant feelings. They will try to justify themselves, but don’t buy into their rationale. It isn’t sound. Instead, reinforce the good feelings.

Here are some quotes that may help encourage you.

"It is never too late to find a good feeling place about anything. Things will constantly change to match the feeling you have inside." Abraham-Hicks

“The way you are responding emotionally to what you’re living right NOW, is what equals your future attraction, creation, and allowing.” Abraham-Hicks

“Tending to your own thoughts and feelings and letting yourself become the perfect match to your desires brings you joy and peace. And I promise you that your own joy and peace are the keys to everything -- EVERYTHING -- you want, for yourself and others.” - Rebecca Fine (You DO know who Rebecca is, don’t you?)

“Everything is about Law of Attraction. Not law of going out and getting it. It's not law of deserving. It is not law of earning. It is just law of achieving vibrational harmony with that which you want, and then it cannot not come. It must come to you.” Abraham-Hicks

“The important thing is that you actively put yourself in the vibration you must for your desired outcome to be created.” - Multimillionaire businessman and teacher, John Assaraf, from p. 168 of his book ‘The Street Kid’s Guide To Having It All’

"Thou shalt decree a thing and it shall be established unto thee and light shall shine upon thy ways." Job 22:28 The Bible (You ‘decree a thing’ when you embody the feeling of it, be it peace, well being, love, calm, etc.)

"Words saturated with sincerity, conviction, faith, and intuition, are like highly explosive vibration bombs which when set off shatter the rocks of difficulties and create the change desired...

Sincere words or affirmations repeated understandingly, feelingly, and willingly, are sure to move the Omnipresent Cosmic Vibratory Force to render aid in your difficulty!" Paramahansa Yogananda, author of ‘Autobiography Of A Yoga’

“You always, always reap what you sow.” - - Oprah Winfrey

"Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap, says the Bible. This means that if we sow thoughts of health and harmony, we shall reap accordingly, and if we sow thoughts of sickness, fear and enmity, we shall reap those things. To sow a thought, in the Bible sense, means to believe it wholeheartedly; and it is our wholehearted beliefs that we demonstrate." - Emmet Fox

“We create our own heaven or hell. Your thoughts can imprison you or set you free. Complications, conditions or people do not upset you, but the way you think about them causes your upset. Freedom is not possible until we discipline and retrain our minds.” - p. 124 of Choose To Live Peacefully by Susan Smith Jones, Ph.D.

“If you say, “I just can’t help the way I feel,” you will only make yourself a victim of your misery ~ and you’ll be fooling yourself, because you can change the way you feel.
If you want to feel better, you must realize that your thoughts and attitudes--not external events--create your feelings. You can learn to change the way your think, feel, and behave in the here-and-now.” - from The Feeling Good Handbook by Dr. David Burns

“The Universe is not responding to our words. The Universe is responding to how we feel.” Esther Hicks

Phil

Perfect, Phil!
Thank you - just what I needed today!
Teresa

That was a great article, Phil. So long story short...

The feeling precedes the reality, rather than the perceived reality preceding the feeling. Have I got it right?


Kate

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The feeling precedes the reality, rather than the perceived reality preceding the feeling. Have I got it right?

That's partly it, Kate.

We think a thought which creates a feeling. And then that feeling and thought attract more like themselves.

Then, sooner or later, that accumulation of thoughts produces what we call reality. If it's something we like, that produces more thoughts and feelings we like.

If it's something we DON'T like, we get more of THAT sort of thoughts and feelings.

And the cycle continues.

BUT ...

EVERYTHING we see or hear or otherwise take in through our senses is just a perception, a "perceived reality." And all those perceptions spark more thoughts and feelings.

So that's why it's so wonderful when we learn to CHOOSE our responses rather than merely reacting out of habit.

Doing that breaks the chain -- and everything changes.

See?

Phil and Rebecca, I just want to thank you both for helping me out with MY relationship with my father.

I send blessings to you both as I took on your advice and everything worked out magnificently for me.

Much love xxx

Wow!!!

This is one of the most inspiring an instructional threads I've ever seen!

Thanks so much, Phil for all your wonderful experience and insight.

Thanks also to everyone who commented or asked questions. I think these are skills we all need in our lives and relationships.

Love and blessings,
Rachel

Hi everyone,

I haven't been on SOGR for ages and this thread just happened to pop up in my email inbox

Thanks Kelly for saying thank you to Phil and Rebecca today because today is the day that I really 'needed' this reminder.

Still laughing at the amazing way everything just 'works'

Thank you thank you thank you everyone for being you!

blessings to all,

Carolyn