Can anyone help me, I don'r know what I want!! I know the 'formless' does work because when I have applied it I got what I wanted at that time but those were small things and now I don't really know what I want. I was more confused by the "is it the 'this' to get the 'that' or the 'that to get the'this'. I have always wanted security in my later life, I am 65 retired and the provisions I made before retirement were not enough so now all I can think of is "I need a great deal of money" I think the things I have tried have not really been what I want, how can one be sure of what one wants. This must sound a very silly thing to most people but to me who really believes in the S.O.G.R.I know I have to 'know' what I want and not to keep changing my mind.As, to my mind, money would be the one thing that would give me security the question is, how does one envisage money? or does one just think about the security one wants but that being a very nebulous thing too, how does one envisage security? Am I making sense, I really would like to hear from others about my problem, In Light and Love,
Hopscotch

I have the same thought...
you could see your self getting a check in the mail.
or be a small time trader picking up some cash..
I know that its hard to clear out the cob-webs
but if all you want to do with your life is sit and look out a window you dont need much money..
so you see what do you want

Dear Hopscotch,

While money, like anything else, is easy to manifest, it is one of the most difficult things for us to imagine because it is a means and not an end, and as we study SOGR principles, we recognize the necessity of accepting Source as our only means. Therefore, as Rebecca points out, asking for money in many instances is like asking for a middleman.

Raymond Charles Barker defined prosperity as "the ability to do what you want to do at the instant you want to do it." To a highly evolved being looking solely to Source, money is a moot issue because all one need do is ask and it is "instantly" given. However, most of us are not yet quite that evolved, and though Source does give the moment we ask, it takes us a bit to recognize and accept. As a result, in our world, to be prosperous in the way Barker defined, we need money.

In most societies, if you tell someone you are rich even though you have zilch in your bank account, they're gonna look at you funny. Rich in peace of mind, joy, happiness and love is wonderful, but in our society, the definition of rich is still money in the bank. I think Wattles understood this and wrote the book with that premise in mind.

I don't believe there is anything wrong with asking for money. Though I have recognized the necessity of being totally dependent on Source, and strive to be so, if friends come over and I want to treat them to an elegant night out at a fancy restaurant, for instance, I want to have money available to do so. My trust is not yet so developed that I can take them to the restaurant, order the meal, eat it, and all the while trust that God has made arrangements to pay the tab. I want money in my bank account and I know God wants me to have what I want.

However, in your post you are indicating that what you are more desirous of than money is security. At the risk of oversimplifying what is clearly a very real concern for you, to be secure you really only need realize you are. If you continually expect your needs to be taken care of and depend on Source to take care of them, they will be. When food is needed, it will be provided, as will water, warmth and comfort. If you decide you'd like a new couch in the living room and use SOGR principles, you'll soon have one, because you have impressed it into the formless and brought it into form. Money needn't come into the equation.

Falling back on Old Testament scripture, my grandmother's favorite saying in time of need was "The ravens will come." And it seemed they always did. Whenever she was short of money or needed something extra, some how, some way, whatever she needed materialized. It did so simply because she expected it to. I don't believe she ever realized that had she expected great wealth instead, that would have been what she got.

In your post, you indicated you are not sure what you want. If you'll remember, Rebecca also covered that in the article. Here's what she wrote:

"If you think you don't know, please realize that you DO. They may be deeply buried, but the dreams are still within you. Those dreams are, as Mr. Wattles puts it, "life seeking expression," just as in the little boy he watched trying to bring music out
of a piano. Remember?

Sometimes, people even come up with an amount of money as their "dream," to AVOID having to
go within and see what they find there. But
as author Neale Donald Walsch has noted in a
neat play on words, if you fail to go within,
you will go without.

If you've been unconsciously substituting some
amount of money for your true desires, then
you're trying to take a shortcut that can't
lead where you want to go.

Here's the thing: When you get absolutely clear on your true desires, you will know it at a very deep level. You'll FEEL it with an odd mixture of enthusiasm and peaceful calm. It'll just feel right -- because it is."

My suggestion, Hopescotch, would be to take a few minutes to quiet all the mind chatter and then ask yourself simply to reveal to you your innermost desires. The answer will come. It may come as more a feeling than a thought, but it will come.

In my own circumstances, I had a certain amount of money in mind that I thought I needed and it became the basis of my original desire. However, as I worked my way through the principles, I realized much of the money I was requesting was for other things and so I made adjustments as I thought necessary. Eventually, as Rebecca suggested, that mixture of calm and enthusiasm entered in and made me realize I was on the mark.

Though the money on my list of desires has not fully materialized yet, I know it's coming and I am enjoying watching the process of its unfolding immensely. In the interim, I am "growing" into my desire, preparing myself for wealth, clearing out the clutter that might have robbed me of joy had I received it the moment I asked.

As I am waiting, I am also fully aware that all of my needs are being taken care of right now, so there is really no rush for the money to materialize. I'm actually in no hurry and I can let it go, trusting that Source will give me my desires, but not really concerned if it doesn't. In the interim, I am working my way though limiting beliefs that block the flow, creating the new me to match the new life I am asking for.

If you'll notice, Hopscotch, all of what I just related is a mental process. I never thought there was anything "wrong" with my original desire, and eventually,I believe, it would have come just as I know my revamped desire will. To me, it is all a matter of my choosing and refining, becoming more selective as I become more keenly aware of what I truly want.

Like Goldilocks in the children's story of the three bears, we are given much to choose from. We have the power and the right to select that which we feel is "just right" for us.

So my suggestion would be to take a deep breath and a break from all your concerns and then relax. Personally, I believe that as long as what you ask for brings no harm to anyone else, there really are no right or wrong desires. The primary thing is to just relax and enjoy the process. Creation really is a lot of fun.

Hope this helps.

Hugs and blessings galore,

Kate

Hopscotch,

You want whatever it is you desire! If you desire money then put all of your effort, vision, and energy into that. However, a word of advice here, and you may believe otherwise, but I don't believe money will bring you security. I desire a great amount of money as well but not for security. I know I'm safe and secure all the time because I'm united with the Universe (God). I fill my head with the thoughts of how safe I am all the time. I could walk down the "worst part of town" (which really doesn't exist in my book because every part of this world is growing into riches) and keep a smile on my face and not even worry about anything. I never worry about anything because I know I'm safe all the time everytime.
Anywho, you only know what you want. You desire whatever it is you desire. You are only confused because you think you are confused. What do you want? Money? Envision and desire it. A new house? Envision and desire it? It's really that easy my friend. You must put the determination, faith, and gratitude into it as well.

--Robb

Hopscotch,

When I'm unsure of what I desire, I try things on for size and see how they fit.

For example, do I want to travel to Scotland or Australia?

First I see myself in Scotland, perhaps on a ferry boat on the way to Skye, or wandering through a castle. In my mind I sit down at a wooden table in a Scottish restaurant and puzzle over what a vegetarian finds to eat there. I stand on the moors and reach my arms out under a gray-blue sky, smelling the cool, crisp air.

Then I do the same thing with Australia. I stand on the shore digging my toes in the warm sand, looking out to sea, noticing how different the Pacific Ocean looks from here than from where I live. I visit zoos and botanical gardens and marvel at all the species that exist in the world. I travel hours by plane to Western Australia to see a friend in Perth, and stay up until the wee hours laughing and catching up on her life.

As I try on these desires, I pay attention to how they make me feel. If I have the least bit of discomfort or unease, or no feeling one way or the other, that's my body telling me it's the wrong desire or the wrong time.

If I feel comfort, ease, pleasure, if the desire makes me smile and feel at home, that's the desire I hold on to, either until I achieve it or until it is replaced by something I desire even more.

I might also go inside and ask questions. Is this desire right for me? Is there another desire I should explore? In what way can I use my life to the greatest good?

It is possible to sample many possible scenarios in a short time. Do you want to travel? See the U.S.? Write a novel? Run for City Council? Become a tennis pro? Cultivate a rose garden? Sit with a glass of iced tea on a sun porch in the Deep South?

Perhaps as a child you had fantasies of what you wanted to be when you grew up. Explore them again. Try them on and see how they fit.

I wish you many enjoyable hours while you find your higher self, Hopscotch. Enjoy.

Laurie

From reading your post, it seems like 'security' is your dominant desire. You already know what you want, ask yourself what it feels like if you are already experiencing security in your life? That's how you envisage security. Do you feel peaceful, do you feel there is more than enough money to go around, do you feel well taken care of?

Hi,
Whow you feel about?
What emotions are you bring in?

It is more easy with emotions!
The universe will ressonate your emotions!
Emotions are thoughts too!

The LA is indeed Law of Emotional Ressonance!

So wy don't try to fill your heart with LOVE...
when you do this you will be amazed with the results.
The Universe will be in ressonance with yourself.

"In Light and Love" as you said.

You can choose stay calm, love is energy, PURE LOVE(All That Is) - You can chose to feel love about everyting that is happning in your experience, wright NOW. Send love to all.
Love these situation, you can chose LOVE, and when you do it, everything changes arround you.
If you send love, it is pure energy, and you are vibrating with this love energy,...guess what... the Universe beguin ressonate with Love.

If you put something vibrating... well... the Universe will be in ressonsnce with you.
When you feel love about something, the Universe will delliver more of it to you.
It is pure ressonance. This is LA.
And it feels good, very good indeed.

So The more you love...
The more you get of this love.
You could start to love yourself.
Beeing is what matters.
Choose your emotions, they could be the door to what you desire.

Espect Miracles and Be One

Oliveiros

Robb:

quote:

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I never worry about anything because I know I'm safe all the time everytime

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I admire your conscious awareness.
Hope you don't mind if I ask
"Are you speaking from the "theory" or you really had been that stage?"

"Never" is a strong word and make me wonder how come I can not catch to that stage. To me, to know maybe one think, to reaaly experience is another.
For example, "I know I should not doubt my faith, but in reality, I doubt when good things not happen and I doubt when bad thing happen"
How do you move yourself to that stage?

-IMHO

IMHO,

Thank you very much my friend. I am not speaking from theory, although theory is possible. I, my friend, am speaking from my currently evolutionary stage (of mind, soul, and body).

Never is a strong word, yes it is. The reason why I can say never, and I've always said never my whole life is because I doubt myself not. I have ultimate faith and belief in what I say, and do, and the Universe. I must, for if I did not I would not say such things. In my world there is no such thing as "bad." There is only good, and perfect, and there will only be in my world. You must make the most of where you are and by doing so you will advace. Learn from such "bad" experiences and transform them into good ones. I transform all things that come to me into positiveness. I see the good in all for that is all I know and desire to see. Sure, I see underadvanced, incorrect, and wrong doings as well, but these are not "bad." You must learn and others will as well, I believe. If they do not then that is by their own decree. Doubt is only in your mind my friend.
Those doubtful thoughts may exist for awhile and may come to you every now and then but you have the power to override them at any moment. For instance, when a "doubt" comes to me, which by the way I am very superior in my mind at spotting now and am only getting better as I go along, I simply tell myself "I don't believe that and I never will. What good may come from doubts? None, there for I believe [fill in the blank] here. I replace those doubts with positive thoughts. I feel the positive thoughts and energy. This is a technique that works well for me, and I believe it may work well for you my friend. It may take awhile for the doubt to remove itself, should it all, but you may always know that you do not have to believe it. You only believe it when you choose to, trust. Trust in yourself and the Universe. As you go along you will get better, I know you will IMHO! Trust, faith, belief, it's one and the same, is key in all of this.

People tell you never to say never because they doubt you. However, I've told my Mother on many account that I will never kill anyone for no good can come from that. She tells me never to say never, even in that area. I reply with "how may you tell me to never say never when it comes to killing someone? I trust myself and know that I will never kill anyone. For me to believe otherwise is unsure, or uncertain, and I'm damn certain I will never kill anyone." More life to all and less to none. To take someones life is to take away from them and no good can come from that, that is the way I believe in my world. I tell my Mother and friends when the time is right what I will receive all my desires and what I will never do (i.e. kill, steal, backstab, etc.) because I know, and believe ultimate that I will never do those things. It is proven in my actions. I do recommend you think over what you desire and say before you do so because the Universe only knows one answer to your questions, and that is "Yes!"

People thought Albert Einstein was stupid as a child. He was not. They thought he was slow. He was not. You know why Einstein appeared to be slow to many? That is because he was thinking! He thought over everything he said before he said it because he wanted to give a perfect answer everytime and thus he did. Perfect does exist for everything in this world and this world is perfect. "Faith is law." Believe that my friend. I have traveled the inner-depths of my mind and know from experience.
I confused myself beyond all belief only to bring myself right back out. I am no more confused and never will be again for I control my mind, my destiny and my desires. Faith is the law! You believe whatever you believe though, for I am in no way trying to tell you what to believe. I offer advice to all who seek it.

I hope this may have helped you IMHO.

--Robb

Dear Robb:

Thank you for your advice.
As I mentioned before, I admire your conscious awareness. If what your said is what you feel/experience. You truly are on the road of mastery. I have to be hornest to myself. I had been asking/searching/reading for so long. Believe me, I don't see things "good-bad" as the answer. We are here for some reasones, and even the "kill" concept you mention, I would have question. "If you kill one hijacker and save the 199 other on the on the airlane, will you do it?" All I said is I am trying to put all the puzzle together and SOGR shall is one exciting book to open the posibility of ending my search. But I am not there yet, that's why when I see people had been go through "inside" and found the answer, I desire the answer and how they do it. I want to get there also.
We live in a relative world, of course they are "good" and "bad", "high" and "low", that is how the world work, and that is why are we all here. Your "self confidence and faith" is the
one I need to learn from you. You are not born that way, how do you reach that stage That is the answer I desire to know. We all know the story of "Emperor's new clothes", that is the mistake I try to avoid. Thank and hope you can help me for this.

-IMHO
-IMHO

IMHO,

Ah, but we are born that way. From day one I had never had worded thoughts roaming in my headed. I had always envisioned "thoughts without words," my supreme imagination! I have figured out that the only time I confused myself was when I smoked weed, as some people are known to have been confused and have schizophernic like effects after they come down. I'm not saying weed is bad, because it's not, I don't view things that way although I used. I believe I abused it and I know I did this because I now know when to say when. However, the relative, world, yes, but I don't see "highs and lows, good and bad" anymore. Again, this comes from belief my friend. It's what you believe. Your past experice cannot determine your beliefs, for if you believed that way forever you shall forever remain where you are at. That is what I believe at least, and in my world it proves true. As Jesus was, this world will won't become peaceful until people learn that experience should not determine beiefs, or so I believe. For instance, say a black man cut you off on the freeway. If beliefs determined experience then you might say that all black men will cut me off on the freeway. That is an error though. That is a stereotype. And I see stereotypes being done away with as I watch the world, no doubt. It's all about beliefs my friend.

I have updated myself as I go along in this life. If you keep searching for the "how, when, why" you will be stuck where you are at, or so I believe. You must trust, have faith. Let it prove itself to you because it will and the SOGR is all about such a concept. You say I'm not born this way but I am. The only reason I believed otherwise was because I cast the doubt on myself. Whenever something didn't work out the way I wanted it to I say "screw it and gave up." That's doubt! That will never get you to where you want to go, trust in that. I know better than to never let anything get in my way for I shall smash all obstacles (in a peaceful way of course) in my path, just as Wattles says.

It's as Einstein said "I believe that the present fashion of applying the axioms of science to human life is not only entirely a mistake but has also simething reprhensible in it." He's entirely right in my world.

As Max Plank stated: "It is a fact that there is a point in the immeasureable expanse of mind and matter, where science and therefore every casual method of research is inapplicable, not only on practical gounds, but also on logical grounds, and will always remain inapplicable. This is the point of our individual awareness."

It's all about belief my friend. You either do and trust, or don't and don't trust. It's quite an easy decision as I've been living by such for so long. It will get easier for you as you go along man, trust on that. The choice is yours.

About the kill question, I would say I'll find another way to figure it out, peacefully and without violence. That's logic and science trying to make you do otherwise, which I why I believe science, when applied to life, is obsolete. Learn to listen to your innerself IMHO, you can do this, I know you can!

--Robb