Does it need any complicated Science to prove that formless stuff? I think it was true. That thinking stuff does not need any complicated laboratory experiments in order to be comprehended as true. Our very act of thinking proves it to be true.

Or maybe the term form is confusing things all originated
from one form to another. From smaller form to bigger form.

Just like the Issue of Creation from nothing to something. BigBang.

Well better not to complicate the matter.

What matters is that the principles works.

If we choose to follow it. We will surely get the result as we expected it to be.

What about the hochy pokie god? You can't see him but he exists!

cMike,

I believe you are correct! This is why I believe science, in it's current structure, is very limiting. Metaphysics, however, I believe if fully correct. Thought determines experience, as the SOGR shows. Should one follow such principles one cannot fail, guaranteed!

As I said, science is great for building rocket ships and things of the like, but it cannot account of conciousness. That is what I believe though.

--Robb