Mr. Wattles say in SOGR page 28: The person who can sincerely THANKS God for the things which as yet he owns only in imagination has real faith. He will get rich. He will cause the creation of whatever he wants.

This is in harmony with this:

Therefore I say unto you, whatever things you desire, when you pray, believe that you will receive them, and you shall have them. These are words of Jesus according to (Mark 11:24)

In order to sincerly thanks the formless (God)you need to believe that it exist so if you have gratitude you have faith and by thanking in advance you already believe that you will receive and start feeling good about what you want like if you already have it.

Also to move from the competitive mind to the creative mind you do it by being grateful and practicing gratitud for every thing, so you will be in harmony with the formless and there will be no conflict of interests so you will have the guaranted cooperation and willingness of the formless to bring you what you want.

So the simplest form to think and act in the CERTAIN WAY is by practicing GRATITUD of course after you have done your CMI.

With all the respect for the religious belief of everyone, I am a Christian as Mr.Wallace was not trying to convert anyone to my belief.

Any coments...?

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Originally posted by Condor:Any coments...?

Hi,

Just a question. I have my answer, but I'd like to here yours?

How can you know if you're in harmony with what you want?

Phil.

Not that you asked me, but I believe that since I rarely if ever receive any of my specific cmi's, or big cmi's, that I am not in harmony with them. I think that is one way I know that I have not been in harmony with what I thought I wanted....not receiving is an indication that something is amiss.

What is blocking the harmony? Fear? Anxiety? Lack of gratitude? Lack of allowing? Not living the certain way?

I was scared to write this post because I know you have an issue with my generalizations, which you find,unlike your generalizations, to be untrue. So I am providing a disclaimer. Please understand my comments are just ideas. I don't and never have claimed truth. I sometimes write in the wrong person, I think, and it makes it sound like I am speaking on everyone's behalf. Its a communication error for which I apologize.

Hi Annie,

Since you wrote to me, I thought you might like me to respond with something.

You made a couple statements that caught my attention.

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I was scared to write this post,…

You were SCARED? Of ME?

Really? I don't understand. Oh, wait a minute,….. Something just occurred to me. You believe that if you write something I don't like I somehow have the power to harm you? Naw,… that couldn't be it. Could it?

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I know you have an issue with my generalizations,

Hmmm, well, I didn't know I had such an issue. but that doesn't mean I don't, I suppose. Sorta the opposite of the quote below.

"It's not what people don't know that hurts them. It's what they do know that just ain't so." Will Rogers

I hope you don't mind me saying, if nothing else, you're an interesting gal. I think that might make you a little mysterious or sexy. Hmmm,...

By the way, going back to a question I had,… How do you think a person can know they're in harmony (or not) with what they want?

Blessings to you, Annie

Phil

Hi Phil:
What you want is already inside of you, you just have to find it and make it clear and defined by doing your CMI...the problem is that we sometimes confuse what we want with something superficial when what we really DESIRE is something deeper. Once you know what you really want, then you use GRATITUDE to manifest it in the world of forms, gratitude will make you be in agreement with the formless which will bring it to you.

Hi Condor,

My question was: How can a person know they're in harmony with what they want?

Phil

My answer was:
Your want is already inside of you, if you are not in harmony with it is because you haven't find it yet then you need to seek more inside of you to find your real want, then you will be in harmony with it but that takes an inner trip that only you can take, nobody else can do it for you, you have to do it on your own.

For me, how I know if I'm in Harmony with what I want is by how I feel. Anything less than joyous I am not in Harmony.

That doesn't mean I won't get nervous. I get nervous going on stage no matter how many times I've done it. Imagine forgetting the most important line in a play that sums up the entire story. I did that recently while 500 people were watching me. I froze for a moment, went into a state of sheer terror (Dear in headlights effect) but recovered beautifully.

I may get nervous but at the same time I am feeling joy because I am doing something I really enjoy. The nerves usually go away at some point during the performance.

My goal that I always play with is to remain in this joyous state regardless of where I am or what I am experiencing. To get to a place where I don't need any specific experience or thing in order to feel joy. It's a constant state of being. Understanding my connection with God.

Appreciation from the Heart,

Richard De Haven

Seriously, Phil and Annie, get a room already. :P
(sorry, couldn't resist. )

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Originally posted by annievt:
you have an issue with my generalizations which you find,unlike your generalizations, to be untrue.

I know you're addressing Phil, but I personally just find some of your generalisations to be, at the very least, unhelpful.

But as for them being true, well, of course they are, to you. I just wonder why someone would hold on to these ideas. They will only create correspondingly unhelpful experiences. Don't you believe in the LoA?

Phil I answered the harmony queston first. Condor said about the same thing in my mind. No receiving. No Harmony. Its a time consuming way to find out. It took me about 8, maybe 10 years to stop writing the same story. If anyone has a quicker way of finding out whether a desire is harmonious I am happy to hear.

And darn it. I don't have enough time time to search posts for all of your gentle "corrections" to my posts. I am having an extraordinary hair day and can't wait to get to my second job looking like a mysterious over the hill sex kitten.

Coming at this hot potato from a purely "action-oriented" point of view, rather than introspective analysis and debate, "harmonious" is that for me which I will willingly spend my leisure hours thinking about or studying up on, discussing, etc, without feeling precious time was lost "working" - another test is it's the topic on which I can EASILY bore those who don't really care that much about it!

That means it permeates my very mind and being, because it's the thing I care most about, and therefore can easily give 100% to without even feeling like I'm losing out on anything else.

Steering my future away from other direction recently resulted in me taking a leap of faith from what might have seemed more of a "sure thing" but it felt so right I'm completely glad I did so.

That's my take on it, whether it's useful to anyone else is of course not known to me right now.

Since others of you have added to this, let me ask you a question:

How many of you think Condor answered my question?

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Originally posted by Phil:
How many of you think Condor answered my question?

Why?

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Originally posted by Fountainbleu:

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Originally posted by Phil:
How many of you think Condor answered my question?

Why?

For clarity's sake.

How would you answer my question: How can a person know if they're in harmony with what they want?

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How can a person know if they're in harmony with what they want?

They get it.

And on the way to getting it, they're in love with it and fully confident that it's already theirs, no matter what, feeling all the delight of having it right now.

Why complicate the process? Chapter 8 has it all.

That's MY story anyway, and I'm stickin' to it (because it's worked faultlessly for almost 14 years now.)

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Originally posted by Rebecca:

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How can a person know if they're in harmony with what they want?

They get it.

And on the way to getting it, they're in love with it and fully confident that it's already theirs, no matter what, feeling all the delight of having it right now.

Why complicate the process? Chapter 8 has it all.

That's MY story anyway, and I'm stickin' to it (because it's worked faultlessly for almost 14 years now.)

Amen to that.

Abundance to all,
Prince

By the way...
Any body can explain to me how to do the QUOTE thing...
I mean when you post the quote first and then you weite about it...
It's just a technical question of how to do it...
Help

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Originally posted by Phil:
How would you answer my question: How can a person know if they're in harmony with what they want?

Me?

I answered up above, my theory being follow your heart (introspection) and also keep a close eye on your actions: it's possible to think you want something but if you're not doing anything about it in your own time eg studying it, thinking about it, it's probably not your heart's desire.

@Condor, at the bottom right of each post you'll see a little yellow envelope (like the folder symbol) with 2 black dots, quotation marks - click that and then it'll summon up the reply box, or if you're logged out it'll offer you a log-in then the reply, then you'll see the post you're replying to between the word QUOTE in square brackets: chop out the bit that you don't need, and then hit post.

This is what they look like:

 [QUOTE] Reply being quoted's text [/QUOTE] 

You can cut out text within those boxes but be sure to leave both of them intact, because they're telling the clever computers involved which bit is what.

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Originally posted by annievt:
If anyone has a quicker way of finding out whether a desire is harmonious I am happy to hear.

When I was little we lived near a good council-run pool that was free for kids, and so with my parents not being too well-off, I swam a lot. It was a day out sometimes - swim, picnic in the park, everyone's happy.

This led to me thinking, "I like to swim."

Then I forgot about it for years, until as an adult I noticed I had to make a bit of an effort now to stay in shape, so I scheduled 2 day's swimming a week.

For some reason... I never QUITE made it to the pool, time and again.

One day i was actually down there in the changing room and realised, "I DON'T LIKE THIS!!!"

I don't like the chlorine smell, the changing and having to sort my hair out before and after, the slippery tiling everywhere, and the shouting of other people's children, who I'm sure are adorable to their parents but for me, no thanks!

I had spent maybe 30 years as an aware person with a totally false belief about myself, and my likes and dislikes, based on formative experiences and HABIT: only by looking at my action did I perceive that they weren't quite matching up to what was a pretty heartfelt belief about myself!

Imagine if I'd wasted money arranging for accomodation that offered swimming facilities, one of those apartment blocks with a basement gym and pool... when I actually DIS-like it! lol

I'm not even indifferent, it was just NOT for me - I will now happily never try it again, and be glad of the "a-HA!" moment...

Not everyone is capable of having a false belief that long, and I'm sure I might have busted it if I'd tried swimming, recreationally, a lot sooner, but there you go: one way to see what you love is to notice how often you WANT to do it, or things related to it.

Not the only way, but your actual actions usually won't lie.