When I connect with someone who has studied SOGR and really gets it I find that I can trust that person implicitly, very quickly, without having to get to know them deeply etc.

I guess sharing the same knowledge and attitudes and knowing that they know how the universe works means that they will follow the creed "More to all, less to none".

Maybe my challenge is to extend such thoughts and feelings of trust to all, regardless.

Choose success

Darrin
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http://www.qualitylifetrading.com

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Originally posted by Dazzer:
When I connect with someone who has studied SOGR and really gets it I find that I can trust that person implicitly, very quickly, without having to get to know them deeply etc.

I guess sharing the same knowledge and attitudes and knowing that they know how the universe works means that they will follow the creed "More to all, less to none".

Maybe my challenge is to extend such thoughts and feelings of trust to all, regardless.

I think we’re supposed to get in tune and in touch with our intuition within ourselves. And, this intuition will let us know who and what we can and can’t trust.

Phil

I will counter with you can Trust everyone all the time, even if others might not. You cannot control what that person will do, however you can control or choose your ability to Trust a perosn or not, even if they have wronged you.

I believe one of the key aspects of permanent success is self improvement as a person, and SOGR helps us do that. Have you ever seen the llok on a persons face when you say "it's ok, I trust you", when that person has perhaps been told the opposite all their life just because of false appearances. You should see the fire burning within some of these people, and how it inspires them

I will choose to Trust all people as best I can, as I believe they too need some form of inspiration.

Best wishes and success, KAJ

I think that trust goes hand in hand with expectations. When I meet a fellow SOGR person that "gets it", I can confide things related to SOGR, because I know that they'll understand where I'm coming from. On the other hand, if I confide these same thoughts to my brother, he'd laugh in my face. I can trust my brother on other matters though, such as paying me for a piece that he might order. I do not expect my brother to understand SOGR, so I do not expect him to be emotionally available to confide in. Today, I choose who to talk to about various subjects based on their level of understanding. I would not talk to my mechanic about what temperature to fire my pottery. I would not talk to a fundamentalist Christian about metaphysics.

Sometimes, expectations do not get met, and I can allow such a situation to hurt me and remain fearful whenever I confide in anyone (no trust) OR, I can try to come to an understanding of the situation and perhaps where the other person is coming from. As a result, I can switch to a better feeling thought and learn from the experience, knowing better the next time.

Phil:

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I think we’re supposed to get in tune and in touch with our intuition within ourselves. And, this intuition will let us know who and what we can and can’t trust.

YES!!!!

Hi Julia,

agree totally, my point was I will always try to be a naturally trusting person, however will be smart about it for all the reasons you mention.

Best wishes and success, KAJ

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I would not talk to a fundamentalist Christian about metaphysics.

Hi Julia,

Just curious as to how a fundamentalist Christian might be defined.

I personally see congruence between metaphysics and Christianity, being both a SOGRian and a Christian myself.

Best wishes

Choose Success

Darrin
SixFigureMentors
http://www.qualitylifetrading.com

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I think we’re supposed to get in tune and in touch with our intuition within ourselves. And, this intuition will let us know who and what we can and can’t trust.

Hi Phil

I am always fascinated by what is intuition. Some say it's the voice of God speaking to us but really, are feelings also part of intuition? When we say something feels good, are we aligned with this intuition? I can cite many examples of intuition at work,but I am still not sure what is it or what if there is difference with the formless stuff

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Just curious as to how a fundamentalist Christian might be defined.

If you do a Google search of ‘fundamentalist christian’ you’ll find a few different definitions. But I think the essential quality that differentiates them is a belief in the LITERAL accuracy of the Bible. For example, where it’s written that Jesus said, “Ye can move mountains,” they take that literally, i.e., that if a person has true faith they can actuality cause a mountain to physically move.

I personally think that ‘might’ be the case, but I believe, generally, from what I’ve studied of linguists and Biblical scholars that the ‘literal interpretation’ is not exactly correct. For example, linguists have said that being ‘metaphorical’ is a way of using language that was prevalent in certain areas of the world, and at certain times. It was a way of communicating ideas, but not meant to be taken literally. For example, ‘you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink.’ The idea wasn’t to apply this concept to horses and their drinking habits.

So, I believe when Jesus said, we can move mountains with our faith, I think he mainly meant that faith will accomplish great and even seemingly impossible feats. (I think He may also have meant it literally, as a human possibility, but that, for me, is more hypothetical.)

Just thought I’d toss that out.

Phil

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I am always fascinated by what is intuition. Some say it's the voice of God speaking to us but really, are feelings also part of intuition? When we say something feels good, are we aligned with this intuition?

Generally, I think intuition is Divine Guidance’. I also think we can know intuition by how we FEEL. But/And I also think there may be a ‘TWO WAY STREET’ element to intuition. I’ll try to explain.

If when we contemplate some issue or desire and feel bad, I believe it means Source/God is telling us that either the way we are thinking about the issue is doing us harm (leading us away from it, causing it not to manifest, or not manifest in an agreeable way, etc.) or that the physical action(s) we are contemplating may harm us (lead us away from the end result we want, make things worse, etc.).

And if when we think of some issue, course of action or desire and experience a good feeling it means the Universe, God or Source is ‘telling us’ we are on track to having it, in a pleasing, welcome and agreeable way.

Conversely, I believe our FEELINGS are our directives to God or Dinivinity, and I believe God ALWAYS complies. So, when we perpetuate or maintain (rationalize, argue for, defend or justify) some bad feeling, we are telling God or the Universe to harm us or give us something to feel bad about somehow.

“What I fear comes upon me, and what I dread befalls me.” Job 3:25

And if we perpetuate or maintain (rationalize, argue for, defend or justify) some good feeling, or act in ways that cause us to feel good, we are telling God to give us something more to feel good about.

And, I think we get whatever we knowingly or ignorantly ‘ask for’ by how we feel.

“Tending to your own thoughts and feelings and letting yourself become the perfect match to your desires brings you joy and peace. And I promise you that your own joy and peace are the keys to everything -- EVERYTHING -- you want, for yourself and others.” - Rebecca Fine

“The important thing is that you actively put yourself in the vibration you must for your desired outcome to be created.” - Multimillionaire businessman and teacher, John Assaraf, from p. 168 of his book ‘The Street Kid’s Guide To Having It All’

“The Universe is not responding to our words. The Universe is responding to how we feel.” Esther Hicks

“The game of life is a game of boomerangs. Our thoughts, deeds and words return to us sooner or later with astounding accuracy.” ~Florence Scovel Shinn, Prosperity Teacher

“We human beings do only one thing; we create experiences. That is all we ever do. Whatever it is you are doing in your life, you are creating an experience. This experience is of the energy in motion, the e-motion. Therefore, it is of extreme importance that you always be aware of what you are FEELING now!” – page 104 of ‘What If You Knew The Answer,…” by David Cameron

Phil

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I would not talk to a fundamentalist Christian about metaphysics.

Hi Julia,

Just curious as to how a fundamentalist Christian might be defined.

I personally see congruence between metaphysics and Christianity, being both a SOGRian and a Christian myself.

Best wishes

Hi Dazzer,
My experience concerning this statement has been with the literalists,(as Phil described so eloquently) and I see them as "fundamentalists";that is to say that they see anything dealing with the unseen metaphysical world as "evil" or "of the Devil" and they think that because I am a Pagan that I am evil. To me, this covers but a small fraction of Christians that I know. In fact, many Christians that I know are quite open to SOGR and metaphysical things, and are among my good buddies. Clearly, you are not a fundamentalist, but are more like many of my Christian friends.

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Generally, I think intuition is Divine Guidance’. I also think we can know intuition by how we FEEL. But/And I also think there may be a ‘TWO WAY STREET’ element to intuition. I’ll try to explain.

Thanks for the explanation, Phil. In other words, we can tell our conscious mind to think something, and if it feels good, that is a sure sign that good will come of it, regardless of what action we are prompted to take. If we feel something amiss, or feel bad, that is also a sign that whatever we are going to do, we are not ready for it or we have to change our thoughts about it. Hmmm....some more to ponder on...so maybe I can say that intuition is simply divine guidance from our higher selves/formless stuff/GOD, or what ever names for the greater and all powerful BEING.

I have just recently had an excellent experience of what I was talking about!

I came across someone on a business forum. His profile did not explicitly mention SOGR but the list of favourite books included Think and Grow Rich, The Secret and As a Man Thinketh (Which is my 2nd favourite to SOGR)

Instantly I knew that he "got it", both on this evidence and intuitively and that he knows how the laws work. There were no doubts or reservations about getting in contact and being able to do business.

It is a nice way for it to be.