Early on in SOGR, Wallace tells us that money, with respect to material possessions is the ONLY thing we require for all we need, so, why would we want to affirm possession of anything else?

After all, whatever we visualise/affirm can be acquired with money, such as sewing machines or houses, as described in SOGR.

So why would one wish to visualise anything but (enough) money? Fine by me, I love the stuff.

So, to affirm possession of money... what is the boundary, the limits, if any? If I so firmly believe that I AM a $billionaire (and can therefore for example, help/inspire many people) is there anything to say that that is a wholly ridiculous sum for which to hold a firm mental belief/affirmation?

After all, Wallace teaches us to think big, not small.

I guess an exception would be, if something is gifted to us. But even then, surely the affirmation of money would still hold by virtue of being the default by which that something would ALWAYS be delivered to us, regardless?

When I first started visualizing things in my life I would visualize holding money in a fan shaped. I cut out pictures of images like that. Well it worked. And didn't occur to me that it worked until I was working as a teller and on my last day I took a picture of me holding money in that same shape. I should have been a little clearer with my image.

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Originally posted by ij:
Early on in SOGR, Wallace tells us that money, with respect to material possessions is the ONLY thing we require for all we need

Interesting. Where do you find this in the book?

The only point of a "clear mental image" at all is because of how it makes you feel. If it causes you to feel good, your thoughts will be in the affirmative, heading you toward the realization of what you desire. If it causes you to feel otherwise, you'll notice it's because your thoughts are headed the other way.

So if imagining having lots of money feels wonderful to you, go for it. Quite a lot people, however, find that such imaginings don't feel good for long; they soon begin to doubt and never feel inspired to any sort of action. They cause themselves to feel worse, not better, and fix their thoughts on THAT.

As for whether or not a particular sum is "wholly ridiculous" or not, that's up to you.

For me, numbers alone aren't all that enticing. But the experiences I want to have -- the whys behind the whats -- definitely are.

None of us wants anything at all for any reason other than that we right now THINK that having that thing will make us feel better. So just pay close attention to the feelings that the thoughts produce because those feelings tell you where you are REALLY putting your focus and faith.

One last thing. For myself, I can't think of anything I have received in my life that is NOT a gift. Just this breath I am taking even.

Many thanks both, for your kind replies.

Rebecca... I found your answer particularly useful (no disrespect BrandonsMommy!) and inspiring, an answer - and critique - of my question, which is exactly what I'd hoped for

Where did I find what Wallace says? Well, the way I read it, in most of Chapter 1. That's what it more or less says [to me] anyway. In the opening paragraph for example "No person can rise to his greastest possible height in talent or soul development unless he has plenty of money..." & "...unless he has money to buy them with". Again on page 4; second sentence, second 2.

In the second paragraph on page 3, he says "...society is so organized that people... must have money to become the possessor of things".

Maybe "ONLY money" is a bit too abrupt an observation on my part. At least you've put a good perspective on that though.

Having money is the way I read/interpret it anyway, and I do so now with respect to your observations, and hence a much more complete picture too.

(I realise that riches and wealth mean different things to different people)

I have a question regarding page 32/33 too, but I'll put it a fresh post.

You know, SOGR get more revealing and fulfilling with every read-through!

Thanks

I love money too. I want it so I have options, independence and freedom. These are hard things to visualize.

I mentioned that my cmi's changed a lot...daily. I never want the same new car. What I want is knowing that once every three years I go car shopping without worry.

I want to move out. Honestly, I have many places I would like to live. I moved around growing up. I would like to live in several more places before I die. There is a house up the road I like for now so I can stay near the kids til they graduate. It is nice but I know I do not want it for long. I am very aware that my desires change daily almost by the minute. I want money so that I can occassionally accomodate some of them....without thought or worry.

Wanting momey is wanting freedom. I can visualize possessions all day, but it doesn't get me far. They are temporary. There is no one thing, I really want that long.

My only dream of personal accomplishment is to get several online degrees. I enjoy study, but I do not want to use the information to get a job or have a business.

I just want lotsa cash so I can take classes whenever the mood hits me. Then when I get tired of study, I take a break and do something else. If I never get a degree....who cares? I had the freedom to learn what I wanted when I wanted.

Money feels free and that is why thinking about it all by itself is so very exciting.

Looking ar some crisp bills I have been collecting....just looking at them is exhilarating. Touching them is almost too much Yep...having big bank balances and stacks of high denominations is one of the highest experiences I have ever had. You don't need to have accomplishment or any particular possession for a cmi....you can just have money as your first true love.

If you can't then why bother. You can only have what someone else tells you feels good.

Well, annievt, WHY are those "crisp bills" so exhilarating to you?

What MEANING do you give that money? Because without the meaning you give it, it's just some fancy paper made by the Crane stationery company.

Why CMI anything else but money?

Well, for me it's more fun to create a CMI of all that I want to experience. The creativity, the possibilities of all that is possible excites me. Money is fun and great to have but the experience of bringing your images to fruition is life changing.

With one of my dreams I produce theater. When the team brings to life the story on stage the feelings behind that is exhilarating.

Everything you see around you that has come into physical form is the result of people impressing their cmi on formless substance.

I mean everything: buildings, cars, gardens, art, music, street signs, fountains, fashion, jewelery, hybrid flowers, restaurants, festivals of kinds, money, movies, on and on it goes. Anything your eyes see has been created from someone's cmi.

Imagine how boring the world would be if no one used their imagination in this way.

It's an exciting world to be a part of when you play with your cmi.

WOW, I'm getting goose bumps and giddy with anticipation thinking about how infinite all that is possible in this world is. It never stops increasing. It truly is awe inspiring.

Appreciation from the Heart,

Richard De Haven

Richard....I admire you for getting what you want using sogr, but to me the world is too full of busyness and I do not appreciate all of those creative things you enjoy. I don't mind what others do or want, but for my own little world I want simplicity and security of my own bed, even if that bed changes venues every so often. I understand creativity made the bed and that I enjoy other fruits of creation, I just want to minimize it in my life. I have created and accomplished, but the feeling doesn't compare to peace and simplicity. Its just different strokes for different folks.

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What MEANING do you give that money? Because without the meaning you give it, it's just some fancy paper made by the Crane stationery company.

I do believe I described my love of money, and everything that symbolizes it in our society in terms of freedom of choice and freedom from committment. That would be the meaning/feeling associate with the stack of bills I now keep near my bedsde table that I talk to lovingly every night.

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the feeling doesn't compare to peace and simplicity

Hi Annie,

Peace and simplicity I LOVE! I do live on making my life peaceful and simple.

Despite the perceptions that my work revolves around a lot people most of my time is spent without them.

I hang out in a lot alone in gardens and parks here in the desert being creative and using my creative energies. I have a portable charger that lets me use my laptop anywhere and an internet card I can use anywhere.

I do understand the feelings of peace and security of being in your own bed.

There are times I don't get out of bed and just enjoy the peacefulness of it.

When I perceive creativity I use it to help me understand that this creativity is from God and that I share this same connection.

I can truly appreciate that it is this same energy at work in me even when I desire to stay in bed to relax.

I wasn't going to ask but I feel it's okay to.

Why did you use the word "Security" in your statement about being in bed? Perhaps there is a belief or fear that is lurking behind this.

Appreciation from the Heart,

Richard De Haven

No matter how aggravating people are, or how wonderful my walk alone in the woods was tonight, coming home, seeing this thread and thinking of stacks of money made me happier than any other thought I had today So thanks for bringing up the money cmi, because it is the best feeling ever. Why cmi anything else but money, indeed!

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Originally posted by annievt:
thanks for bringing up the money cmi, because it is the best feeling ever. Why cmi anything else but money, indeed!

Because, the real bottom line is not stacks of money, or a certain shaped body and/or appearance, or owning or use of homes, cars, clothes, or being able to vacation here and there and anywhere,…

The real bottom line is, you simply want to experience certain feelings more, like peace, security, freedom, bliss, joy, well being, worth, dignity, happiness, fun, delight, wonder, amazement, awe, ease, effortlessness, safety, interest, love, passion, appreciation, gladness, gratitude.

The real bottom line – the reason you want money or anything else material or experiential – is, you want to experience some feeling.

But then, if thinking about having stacks of money triggers wanted feelings in you, then of course, think of having stacks of money.

For me, there are plenty of things to think about that trigger feelings I like. Stacks of money is just one.

Phil

I hear you Phil. I was just so greatful for the wave of pleasure seeing my money caused. It certainly is all of those feelings you mentioned rolled up into one easy small package!

Money can't buy you LOVE!

OMG Jack. Are you in love? Do share...right now!

Well Annie I couldn’t wait for you for ever!

Well as you know I am getting a divorce and have been separated for year and 8 months.
I made a CMI of me finding a person who loves me and treats me good. I then thought ask large so I then added beautiful, great figure, you know the hot model type. Well I was on face book and when ever I saw an old class mate log on one that I remember from second grade. We were suppose to go roller skating and I cut my ankle and couldn’t go I can still remember sitting at my kitchen table and calling her telling her I couldn’t go. Well we started talking on face book chat and after like 4 weeks we actually met. We have been dating for 3 months now.

So I use the process and it appears to have worked and worked very quickly. I just am not totally clear on the exact results. I seem to have gotten what I asked for someone who cares about me how much time will tell. She is not the hot supermodel that I included in my CMI as an after thought but she isn’t the worst I have ever seen either lol. I have not had to date or be single for 20 years and I am not sure what I am to do or how it works so there has been some confusion there as well. I also didn’t think I would feel all the emotions that I feel from excitement, exhilaration, fear, insecure and I didn’t realize how lonely I was. I really seem to care about her but maybe its just the first girl I am dating. I am trying to use the same techniques to keep myself feeling good when all the insecurities come but seem to fail often. Things are not perfect by any means.

This has me wondering that maybe the universe is giving me what I need at this time not necessarily what I want. I might need to go through this relationship or more before I get it right.

Your thoughts?

What do I think? Totally Awesome. I have kinda thought the ex thing and working on the insurance business was keeping you a bit isolated from more genuine relationships. You just seem like the genuine relationship kind of guy.

And yep...I do think some of the excitement is first time stuff. Its good that you are honest with yourself about that. But I do love first times. So enjoy that!!

If the novelty wears off or you find she just isn't the one, there is always the really smart, kind supermodel. I think once you get the hang of the Law of Attraction, anything is possible. I also think being happier with what you have is part of the process, so she may start to look better and better.

(I also think looks weren't as big of a priority for you or that you didn't really believe you could get the supermodel.)

One of the problems I have with observing people on the forum...they seem to make themselves content whether they get their exact cmi or not, so from an observer's point of view, it seems like the stuff doesn't always work. However, folks here do seem to be happier and generally want what they have without noticing that they didn't get exactly what they wanted....so does it matter? Nice girl or supermodel?

I got so sick of loser men asking me out at work...definitely the law of attraction at work....that I started defining the sort of men I would like to hang out with in my relationship cmis. Wit and intelligence came first....no permanent or conventional relationship...men on the move, going somewhere.

And you know what happened? I work with a bunch of really fun college guys who seem to really enjoy conversation with me.
We talk. We laugh. They have plans. They are moving up in the world. They are smart. And they definitely don't want a boyfriend type relationship with me...whew! I got just what I wanted....only much younger.

This week the money will be that easy.

Well Annie when I step back and look at it objectively I think it’s the perfect situation. She lives hour and half away so I still get my alone time. She has kids and doesn’t want to introduce me to them yet which I totally understand so she visits me once or twice a week so I don’t even have to travel. She says she isn’t looking for anyone else and I am happy with only seeing her for now anyway. I got exactly what I wanted really even better than I asked for.

So the problem you ask? I got too attached I didn’t even consider that. I thought I would go out with someone and have fun and now its like I have feelings of missing her and what is she doing when we are apart blah blah blah. I have feelings of insecurities, fear ect. She has been divorced for 8 years so she has her full life of a large family friends who stop by and I spend most of my time alone now.

I guess I either deal with it or put in a new order to the formless.

I also am realizing that feeling happy and peaceful and having good relationships and doing things in the right way means so much more than having all the money in the world!

So last night I was joking around with the girls about men, and I described what I consider fun....no strings, generous to me when he is with me and to others when not with me, comes and goes on a whim, very independent. I am definitely not his main focus. Heart wide open physicalness.

So I am walking on an old deserted country road I sometimes drive to just to be very alone when I walk. I get a blister. I am putzing around with my sandal. This perfect guy jogs up behind me, asks me what's wrong. I say a blister. No worries. I'll walk barefoot. Without asking, he picks me up and carries me back to my car.

LOL...over a blister.

Never said anther word. I'll never see him again. I'm in love.