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Mind-Blowingly Wonderful Contributor |
Howdy all
I am shining by my absence, all is well in Victoria life is great abundance flourish, unlimited growth. Today I have a question regarding chapter 4
The question arise how does a person impress upon the formless substance the thought of money, for money to become a visible thing? Good to be here again. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Bernard Be a leader with a servant's heart http://tocleaders.com/bernardt/ Expect the best and the best will come forward |
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Bernard, To me (from all that I’ve studied) you must understand that “every thought held in this substance becomes a form.” Most people seem to harbor one or more RESISTANT thoughts about money, like: Money causes problems.You have to work HARD for money. To get money you have to sell your soul. You must struggle to have money. You can’t do what you love and also make the money you want. You have to be really smart, special, gifted, etc., etc., etc., to make a lot of money. I don’t have the talent for making money. I shouldn’t want money. Money isn’t important. It takes a long time to make a lot of money. It takes too much time. In the case of money, one of the things often stressed is, we don’t need to impress Substance of the fact that we want money, as much as we need to REMOVE our impressions that there is something wrong or bad about money. To me (again, from all that I’ve studied) we need to come to understand that the Universe is not STUPID. By that I mean, we don’t need to keep telling the Universe we want more money. It knows that. Instead, we need to get clear of our own obstacles for money. Years ago, I was working at a 5 star hotel, and talking to a guest about money, and he said, “Money is the easiest thing in the world.” And, at the time I thought, “Yeah, maybe for YOU it is.” But later I wondered, “Why is it easy for him, and not for me?” It seems, a lot (or maybe MOST) of it has to do with the beliefs we have about it that make it hard. Let me try to put this in another context, to make it clearer. One of the things practically EVERYONE wants is excellent health, and to be very fit. It’s pretty much a universal desire, isn’t it? Well then, why aren’t most people very healthy and fit? Apparently it’s not for lack of desire. Again, the thing that stops people is, people have many beliefs that keep them from the health and fitness they want. It’s too hard. You have to work too hard for it. It’s not fun to exercise. I don’t have the time. I’m in too bad shape. I can’t do it. It’s vain to want to look good. I have more important things to do. I can’t change. And on, and on, and on. But it’s all B.S. Phil "The Universe is responding to how we feel." Esther Hicks |
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Great to have you back Bernard!
Money is just a tool and like a saw or a hammer can be used to build a house! But first you envision that house, by your thoughts you create it, than by your actions you recieve it! And sometimes you don't even need the money! Read Rebecca's latest ezine, particularly the section discussing vision and visualizeing something. If you have a vision that's strong enough you will recieve the object of that vision, and money may or may not be used to bring it to you! Be good to yourself, live life passionately and always, always expect success!! I don't know how long I will live, but I'll live until I die!! Tom Strong |
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Hello Phil
I always love to read your posts, very enlightening and uplifting. In this case though I think you went out of your way going around in circle trying to answer a very simple question based on a very simple statement taken from the book.I understand the working of it all being there done that. I have witnessed the process at work in my own life and the life of people around, the question remain, is it an esoteric process? is it a quantum process? I.E collapsing the wave form thus re-instating the original state of being? Or is it more a spiritual experience that demand faith only and nothing else, so we ask for something hoping to have the faith necessary to see it unfold? Or is there another possibilities, contenting with the fact that we cannot limit the work of the Universe in any way shape or form. I do agree with everything you said and I am trying to clarify my approach to the question. Hi Tom Great to be here thank you for the reply again the point is missed although you too have very good explanations and I understand the resistance and fears and all that jazz attached to who we are really. Then again the question still stand and the answer is forth coming I believe that the same that Christmas is coming again this year no matter how many people out there are trying to kill it. Back to the drawing board guys. I love this forum. Thank you both for taking the time. Bernard Be a leader with a servant's heart http://tocleaders.com/bernardt/ Expect the best and the best will come forward |
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Hi Studmuffin.
Having asked the question in isolation. If we just think about money will it appear, the answer is NO. The manifestation of anything is totally dependent on your faith and belief in receiving it. [I know that you are aware of all the other parts required to manifest stuff, and I do believe that you have done the course.] There is no way around this, and the reason most people fail at making the teachings contained in SOGR work for them, is that deep down they do not believe it. I have had a great life and experienced some amazing things since adopting Wallys' teachings. I have found that a genuine belief in achieving what you desire has delivered many things, that I had in a previous life not even bothered to dream of. Many people are convinced that they have total faith and belief in receiving their desire and are surprised that things do not appear. When they are totally honest they will admit to possibly having their fingers crossed. If it is any help, I have found that it is much better to visualise what it is you want to do with the money. That way, you do not limit what you get, because the universe will always deliver that or something better, and it is much easier to imagine and feel that, than to imagine and feel getting some money. I can only speak from my personal results, but I can assure you that once you get to the point where you ALLOW things to happen, it is a real blast. I will qualify here, that it is not easy, and of course I had doubts about things, but I always found that once I got focused again things got back on track. One of my greatest pleasures now is understanding why and how things went wrong in the past. I never tried to work out the HOW when I was learning this stuff and when I did fall off the horse, I could always understand why it happened. One thing I tell people is there are only three rules to making this all work 1. RELAX 2. RELAX 3. RELAX. I really think that it is a case of getting out of our own way and allowing things to happen. I hope that helps. Abundance to All Croz |
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Hi Bernard
Great to hear from you. As always you ask very exceptional questions. I am still not sure what is it you are asking, if you are seeking a scientific explanation,quantum physics does explain part of it. and I think Phil and Tom's reply really touch on the basics of it. If we are totally cleared of all our doubts and fears, I think the process is pretty straightforward. When we can cause the formless energy to vibrate in perfect harmony to what we think about, it takes the form of what we think about. How and why it occurs, unless we have become formless and came back to tell about it, I really think I prefer to let it be a mystery, and let faith carry me through, or until such stage where human knowledge is fully enlightened  Blessings Kevin "I think of life itself now as a wonderful play that I've written for myself... and so my purpose is to have the utmost fun playing my part." Shirley MacLaine Actress and Author |
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Hey Bernard, long time no see!
 I really enjoyed reading all the replies thus far, even if you feel that it didn't answer your question.
My answer: The formless responds to your vibrations, also known as your SUBCONSCIOUS thoughts. Harry Carpenter calls it "your inner genie" in his book The Genie Within. To manifest what you want, your subconscious mind and conscious desire must be in agreement. If you don't like what you see, change your subconscious programming. I use EFT and subliminal CD's to do this. Hope this answers your question, Julia "Once I learned to herd cats, I realized that ANYTHING is possible..." Julia Passamonti-Colamartino http://venetiancat.com |
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Good morning ( some other time for Croz)
loving peopleHere is the story behind the question. Get a coffee or tea make yourself comfortable,it's going to be lengthily. 7 years ago we moved to Victoria BC Canada. We then started to look for a house to call home. We both have different ideas of a house. For the next 3 years we are looking up and down everywhere never to find what we are looking for, kind of the "dream house" this is going to be the last house we are going to live in before departing from this planet. After 3 years I decided to give in a lot of my demand just 3 things I really desire it need to be spacious inside and outside (acreage) ocean front property, and a boat launch. Now I even gave up the boat launch.My wife continued with her vision and I didn't care what t look like. At that point we posted on our dream board, which is actually a whole wall in the house. 18 month ago, when again looking for a place to call home I stumbled upon this property, ocean front with all that we both wish for and then some way over what our limited mind could conceive. At first it was like yeah right then it started to grow on u7s and one day together we realized that this is the place we were looking for. Now take a load of this. This house was build 3 years ago by a man that wanted a retreat where his whole family could get together at least once a year. He spare no expanses, soon he realized that what he wanted to do is not happening (this is the short version of his story) and decided to list the house on the market. After 2 years no one has made an offer yet. Lately, a few month, we realized what took place. "we manifested this house" and according to Wally the Universe put it together just for us. And that we believe into the depth of our being. Once or twice a month we go and visit the house, we have created a relationship with it. We know deep down it is ours and was build for that purpose, every cell in our body and mind confirm that fact. We have many pictures plastered all over the place here even have a movie continuously running on my screen. We know this place inside out and outside in we are familiar with every square inches of the 6 acres, many time we have walked the 300 ft of ocean front. Now the only thing needed to unite us and the property is MONEY. We know it's in the process and we know it is happening our entire being is witnessing this. And this is the reason for the question. Croz I thing you hit the nail right in between the eye when you said RELAX, RELAX, RELAX. And I think this is where we fall short, so we are realxing now. Thank you so much all for the great input and I am looking forward to more insight. Love you all Bernard Be a leader with a servant's heart http://tocleaders.com/bernardt/ Expect the best and the best will come forward |
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Hi Bernard,
Sounds like a worthwhile CMI Home! Have you spoke with the owner about carrying some paper? Another idea, he may be willing to be partners with you; when he wants to have a party with his family let him have access to the house! There is a saying in Real Estate; You name the price and I'll name the terms. Let the owner know what you are able and willing to do to own that home! Perhaps trade for some climbing lessons! Be good to yourself, live life passionately and always, always expect success!! I don't know how long I will live, but I'll live until I die!! Tom Strong |
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Bernard With your last post in mind, your prior question has greater depth. Remember as you were mentally creating your dream home, the clearness of thought, the desire, the excitement, the joy, the surety that it was out there somewhere and all you needed to do was find it? The desire was strong, the faith was solid. You just knew. Now then a little 'lack of faith' started creeping in because you weren't finding what you wanted and so you were willing to compromise, but the Universe had ALREADY started the process. And it has created exactly what you were wanting and more. Hence the admonition to be patient. While you were manifesting your dream home, did you give thought to whether or not you would have the money flow to acquire it? Or did you just know it would be there? If you just knew, then be patient now. When you're ready, it'll be there. If you didn't give thought to that, then begin thinking "I don't know how the money will be here to purchase our dream home, but it will." Feel that with all the surety you felt as you were manifesting your dream home. Don't try to figure out how its going to happen, just relax with the faith that it will. If there's a part of you that feels you must do something, then quiet your mind and ask "Universe, IF there is anything I should be doing, show me." Then be open to inspiration. Maybe there's some place you're suppose to be or something you're suppose to do.... but then again, maybe not. In any event, allow the Universe to line everything up. Sometimes we say, I want it and I want it now. But the Universe is saying... the time isn't right just yet. Don't lose faith, be patient. Everything will work out in your highest and best if you leave the process up to the energy that knows and sees things you aren't aware of yet. And has already been said, relax. |
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It sure is a worth while piece of property let me tell you.
So many great answers and so many good advice, the love of this group is overwhelming then again isn't that why we are here for? Amazing the greatness of the universe. Since I asked the question thus collapsing the wave form.RE- double slit experiment. I received many answers via your post and within. This morning during meditation this little parable came to me. I am standing in an open field with bow and arrow, fired an arrow straight up into the sky and then was given a choice, to run around try to predict where the arrow would hit, or just stand still and live the moment knowing that the arrow will fall where it may having the certainty that it would not hit me. I decided to stand still and enjoy the arrow hit a few feet away from me. hen the question arise if I was to fire another arrow would it it at the same place than the first one? And so it is prepare do all that I can do that day and do it in an efficient manner and let the arrow fall where it chooses. Bernard Be a leader with a servant's heart http://tocleaders.com/bernardt/ Expect the best and the best will come forward |
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Mind-Blowingly Wonderful Contributor |
Hello Diane
Thank you for your post and sharing. Yes i have to acknowledge that at time doubt is creeping in , after the all this is a property that is price out of our budget and we know that it is not from our effort that it is happening instead we believe in a higher purpose. And yea I have commanded IDKH many time and under many forms. Now I think it's time to relax and let if come as it may. And yes not when in time just timing that's the important ting here. And yes we just knew when the time is right the money will be here, like everything else timing again. You are so precious. Bernard Be a leader with a servant's heart http://tocleaders.com/bernardt/ Expect the best and the best will come forward |
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Hi, Bernard.
Love this particular thread, the initial suspense and your following explanation. There are two great and exciting lessons from this thread. Firstly the fact that when u are following Sogr principles, having money is not necessary to manifest something that otherwise usually require money. You have already manifested the house without spending a dime. Secondly, your initial question of how to manifest money is now irrelevant in your particular situation. You have already manifested what you want, the next thing is to receive it. So you take efficient action. "by thought what you want is brought to you, by action you receive it" so wally says. So i suggest you take the action speaking with the "temporary" owner today. I believe you won't be surprised if he donated the house to you! I think your case is a rare example of seeing what you desire manifested in this physical word before you actually received it and your coming back to this forum after so long is no accident. This is where your story truly belongs. It's going to be an inspiration to a lot of us. Successfully yours. Abdul. |
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Mind-Blowingly Wonderful Contributor |
Hmmmm------
Another thought; if you spend a lot of time and effort towards recieving this house and you still don't get it be grateful! Like the man in the book who worked towards a certain deal that didn't work out discovered that something better happened and would not have occured if the original deal came to pass. The main component is gratitude for all that you have and for all that is coming to you; if you get bummed out for not recieving something that may affect your future reciepts! Any sign of ungratefulness or disapointment will slow down the reciept of your untimate CMI home! In the meantime become the person that you want to be; do the things that you want to do; and have the things that you want to have! Those things will help you to recieve the home that you want to have! Be good to yourself, live life passionately and always, always expect success!! I don't know how long I will live, but I'll live until I die!! Tom Strong |
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Hi Bernard - My name is Bonita and I am new,and I would like to answer your question. You do not have to impressed the formless substance of your need for money it already knows that. What you have to think about is do you NOW know that the formless substance wants to give it to you and if you do then think on those lines. Your believing that with everything you have t is the power that fuels your belief and watch it happen. It is there for not only the asking but believing that you will receive as well. It has and always be up to us to find out and once we find out what we don't know or have been lied about, then it will be up to us again to operate in that new knowledge. I hope this has helped you
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I am very excited for you both and I will be praying that you just remain cool, calm and very focused in bringing this all together for yourselves. And it was a great encourager for what I am embarking upon for the advancement of humanity here in the rural south. You know once you come to this awesome knowledge and you allow it to just lead and guide you it really is all down hill as long as you remain in harmony. Blessings, Oh, by the way my name is Bonita, and I am new to SOGR and enjoying it so much. I have been in the wilderness for a long time, and now I have been brought into my very own, and it feels sooo good. And that is an understatement! |
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Hello Croz, My name is Bonita, and I just want to comment on what you have said, and I am in total agreement to that. One thing about this new life you have to be truly honest otherwise you will not get the intended results you are looking for. Every seed produces after its own kind. If you don't have what it takes to get what you know you should have just tell yourself that and work with what you do have confidence in receiving and go from there. It is all ok, because you are creating and you are in no hurry when you are on that plain, because it is about you and what you now know to do to bring to you what is rightfully due you. |
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I am grateful that Bernard and his wife will soon be living in this beautiful home!
Be good to yourself, live life passionately and always, always expect success!! I don't know how long I will live, but I'll live until I die!! Tom Strong |
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I am grateful that so many people are supporting us in our journey and we in turn send our support to everyone's journey.
Take care Bernard Be a leader with a servant's heart http://tocleaders.com/bernardt/ Expect the best and the best will come forward |
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Here's the thing. I like being fit. I have pursued health and fitness most of my life. My shape and appearance have always followed. Up till now, it has been easy for me to lose weight and keep it off. Typically I have needed to lose weight after the birth of each of my children. Two years ago, I strangely picked up 20 pounds for no explainable reason that I can determine, including having had certain blood tests to see if there were physical explanations like hormones or thyroid. Hmmm. OK, time to get back in shape. No preconceived notions, because it has always been easy. Since then I have walked endlessly, done workouts and most recently, the last 7 weeks begun training for a half marathon. Over the last 7 weeks I have run almost 120 miles. I am sure I am more physically fit, but I have not lost a single pound and as far as I can tell, have not lost a single inch. I find weight loss to be motivating and satisfying, but it becomes difficult to continue even though I fully intend to, without some kind of reward other than fitness. I have overcome my limiting beliefs with EFT. I feel my heart and mind are in sync. So, I'm open Phil to any explanations to this puzzle. There are no intellectual, emotional, or physiological reasons that I can identify as to why I cannot lose at least 20 if not 30 pounds that formerly went easily.  PS, sorry for the change of topic. |
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